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The ALL MSI PC!

CPotter
By CPotter
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Perfect timing with the MSI GPU scandal 

 

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1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

Perfect timing with the MSI GPU scandal 

 

The scalper-price RTX one? Kind of curious after you said that.

Humor me, as you should do.

 

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Just now, dhannemon13 said:

The scalper-price RTX one? Kind of curious after you said that.

Yeah, apparently MSI has been scalping hard to find parts...

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Just now, dhannemon13 said:

The scalper-price RTX one? Kind of curious after you said that.

Yeah where MSI was allegedly selling them under a different name at scalper prices

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3 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah where MSI was allegedly selling them under a different name at scalper prices

 

3 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

Yeah, apparently MSI has been scalping hard to find parts...

 

"Starlit Partner is an individual sales subsidiary working under MSI. They carry excess inventory and refurbished items and would not be given newly released product such as GeForce RTX 30 Series graphics cards. As such, we have conducted an investigation and found that an error allowed them access to inventory they were not permitted to handle."

 

Welp, if the statement's true, can't really fully blame MSI for it, tho. People who would get chance like that would be just lucky if someone didn't found out. Heck, it's a lot of extra money, they thought.

 

Fortunately, someone did found out lol

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Hard Pass. 

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Linus, please never shave ever again.

春の八王子、君はもういない。独り八王子、君はいないから。春の八王子、君はもういない。独り八王子、君はいないから。

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Just now, Skipple said:

Linus addressed this on the podcast. 

 

 

regardless. I don't trust MSI after this. They well know this was happening and wasn't just a "accident" or oversight in inventory... Absolutely no way they didn't know. 

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The all MSI PC, not using an MSI powersupply.............

 

 

@GabenJr any news on the PSU testing front? or is that a dropped topic at this point? i assume @CPotter doesnt know about the transient sensetive PSU topic brought up a couple of weeks back. 

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The all MSI PC, not using an MSI powersupply.............

 

 

@GabenJr any news on the PSU testing front? or is that a dropped topic at this point? i assume @CPotter doesnt know about the transient sensetive PSU topic brought up a couple of weeks back. 

 

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What the actual hell was MSI thinking with that case? There was no way those vents were going to be sufficient with the fans smashed up against the glass.

 

I have to give respect to Linus for not side-stepping the issue in a sponsored bit though. Nice to see!

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I got burned twice by MSI because a lot of their cards are poorly engineered and poorly manufactured. My 5700XT MECH OC's cold plate was a direct heatpipe on chip design, and it was poorly made. There was a 0.2mm gap on one of the heatpipes and it made no contact on the chip. The thermal pads on 2 of the memory chips didn't even cover a third of the area, this is less than a penny per unit in BOM costs. That, and the long thermal pad on the big capacitor bank for power delivery was just dropped on there, and contacted absolutely nothing. It was free floating. I actually removed it with tweezers with the card still assembled.

 

When I tried RMAing it, MSI offered no advance RMA service citing COVID, meaning I'd either have to buy another card while I wait or just be stuck with a card that runs at 109C undervolted. This sort of customer service is unacceptable to me, and selling $600 products that are wholly obviously defective out of the box is even worse. 

Compound that with the recent GN video where they talk about MSI bullying smaller youtubers, and I can't say a positive image comes to mind when I come across their brand.

For those reasons combined, I have no interest whatsoever in watching a video sponsored by MSI, and it's not because of the RTX scalping thing. My reasons are derived from my opinion based on some facts, and my personal experience. Take it for what it is, but yea.

Still, I enjoy the channel and this forum, keep up the good work LTT

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I would like to see a follow up this with a few different cases to see what would be a good case to handle the heat generated from this system.

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That case would be decent if it had air intake gaps at the front. I'm constantly scratching my head when I see tempered glass fitted SO STUPIDLY with fans in locations where there is no airflow. It's a very simple solution to use STANDOFFS to fit the panels on and leave a gap around the edges of the glass for air to move through your fans.

 

Even something like a Mountain Mods case can be converted to tempered glass side panels using standard 1 inch brass standoffs that you can find in any hardware store. It's quite a fun mod to do, especially if you use smoked glass and have those QL Corsair fans.

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if someone made this, they would be swimming in steam codes

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5 hours ago, EvilTelephone said:

What the actual hell was MSI thinking with that case? There was no way those vents were going to be sufficient with the fans smashed up against the glass.

 

I have to give respect to Linus for not side-stepping the issue in a sponsored bit though. Nice to see!

The case is a joke for $250 USD with that price tag attached...more like a ~$100 case imo with the poor thermals. I mean come on, lets just stick a 200mm fan in the front as intake and the top of the case with two 200mm intake fans, leaving just a single 120mm fan in the rear..

 

At 4:19 in the video, I was literally LMAO with the case being haunted by Steve. 

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With case thermals quite literally limiting hardware performance, why would anyone buy this, let alone promote it? I think MSI makes good products (I have an MSI motherboard and GPU), but really? Just make the video without the case, and actually give your viewers some productive "tips" on what hardware to buy.

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16 hours ago, Skiiwee29 said:

regardless. I don't trust MSI after this. They well know this was happening and wasn't just a "accident" or oversight in inventory... Absolutely no way they didn't know. 

Absolutely no way MSI corporate didn't know that the ebay guy in their clearance sales subsidiary sold, what was it, 4 or 6? cards? Are you serious?

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🖥️ Memory: 32GB DDR4 2400  ** Power Supply: 650 Watts Power Supply Thermaltake +80 Bronze Thermaltake PSU 🖥️

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I didn't watch this out of principle. Not (just) because of MSI's scalping fiasco which imo is not the biggest problem with their PR, but because MSI as a company has a long history of bullying tech reviewers into ignoring issues with their products. Steve "Tech Jesus" from GN did a very thorough Editorial on their practices a few months ago.

 

We have a NEW and GLORIOUSER-ER-ER PSU Tier List Now. (dammit @LukeSavenije stop coming up with new ones)

You can check out the old one that gave joy to so many across the land here

 

Computer having a hard time powering on? Troubleshoot it with this guide. (Currently looking for suggestions to update it into the context of <current year> and make it its own thread)

Computer Specs:

Spoiler

Mathresolvermajig: Intel Xeon E3 1240 (Sandy Bridge i7 equivalent)

Chillinmachine: Noctua NH-C14S
Framepainting-inator: EVGA GTX 1080 Ti SC2 Hybrid

Attachcorethingy: Gigabyte H61M-S2V-B3

Infoholdstick: Corsair 2x4GB DDR3 1333

Computerarmor: Silverstone RL06 "Lookalike"

Rememberdoogle: 1TB HDD + 120GB TR150 + 240 SSD Plus + 1TB MX500

AdditionalPylons: Phanteks AMP! 550W (based on Seasonic GX-550)

Letterpad: Rosewill Apollo 9100 (Cherry MX Red)

Buttonrodent: Razer Viper Mini + Huion H430P drawing Tablet

Auralnterface: Sennheiser HD 6xx

Liquidrectangles: LG 27UK850-W 4K HDR

 

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It's funny how this gets done now. I built my son an all MSI build last fall. 

CPU

AMD RYZEN 5 2600X 6-Core 3.6 GHz (4.2 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 95W 

 

MB

MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE

WIFI

 

Memory
CORSAIR Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 DRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600)

 

GPU

MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT DirectX 12 RX 5700 XT MECH OC 

 

Power Supply

Antec HCG1000 Extreme 1000W Fully Modular, 80 PLUS GOLD

 

SDD/HDD/STORAGE

Corsair Force MP600 M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express Gen 4.0 x4 NVMe 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive 

 

Case

MSI MPG SEKIRA 500X             

 

KeyBoard

MSI Vigor Cherry MX RGB Dedicated Hotkeys Mechanical Gaming Keyboard (VIGOR GK70 CR US) 

 

Mouse

MSI Gaming Mouse (Interceptor DS200) 

 

Headset

MSI Gaming Headset with Microphone, Enhanced Virtual 7.1 Surround Sound, Intelligent Vibration System (DS 502) 

 

Monitor

MSI Optix AG32C 32" Red LED Non-Glare Super Narrow Bezel 1ms Response Full HD 1920 x 1080 165Hz Refresh Rate FreeSync

 

Not all the same parts as was used by LTT. Because I didn't have the sponsorhip and had a budget of $1400. (of course I went over that.)

The case is really nice, and like Linus said, DAMN HEAVY!! 

 

 

My 2020 Upgrade: CPU: Ryzen 5 3600; MB: MSI X570 Tomohawk WiFi; Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB 3600 MHz; Case: Lian Li Lancool II Mesh Performance; PSU: Corsair RM550X 80+ Gold; Storage: WD Blue 500GB SSD; Seagate 4TB Compute HDD; Monitor: GIGABYTE G34WQC 34" 144Hz Curved Gaming Monitor, 3440 x 1440 VA 1500R Display

 

Previous Components Still Using: GPU: MSI GTX 1070 (bought Used); Storage: WD 3TB Green HDD,WD 1TB Black HDD, SanDisk SSD PLUS 240GB

Previous Monitor I want to VESA mount: LG 29UB55-B 29" Ultrawide 1080p 60Hz IPS

 

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I have had 2 MSI MB's and 4 Video to date and all have found the junk bin. I will just move on when I see their logo now. I will never own anything MSI. 

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