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Upgrading PC to 4K@144hz; Looking For Advice

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey Everyone,

 

I am planning on upgrading my PC to handle 4K@144hz within the next 3 months; it'll be whenever the deals are good and parts are in stock. So if we're a little over budget now, I'm sure it'll work out later.

 

Budget (including currency): 2,700 USD

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Cyberpunk 2077, Apex Legends, WoW: Shadowlands 4K@144hz

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PC Part Picker Lists:
Current Build
Dream Build

Condensed List of Upgrades:
CPU: i7-7700K -> i9-10900K
Cooler: H115i -> NH-D15
Mobo: Asus Maximus IX Apex LGA1151 -> ASUS Prime Z490-A LGA1200
RAM: Adding 16GB of G.Skill Trident Z (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200
GPU: 1080 Ti -> 3080
PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 650 W -> Corsair RMx 850W
Monitor: Dell S2716DGR -> Acer Predator XB273K

 

Any and all advice is welcome.
Thank you for taking the time to help me out!

 

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i suggest a 10700k or 10600k because most games can not use 20 threads


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18 minutes ago, GonzoGeo said:

RAM: Adding 16GB of G.Skill Trident Z (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200

adding? or replacing?

what's the final ram config gonna be like?

 

other than that, no comments other than CPU, which is already mentioned

10700k would be my choice for a PC of that caliber


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I would consider waiting to see the gaming prefoance of Zen 3 chips, as they will be announcing in about 2 weeks, and CPUs don’t see the same shortages as the house have been. Hell, it might be worth waiting for Navi if the leaked specs are right.


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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

adding? or replacing?

what's the final ram config gonna be like?

 

other than that, no comments other than CPU, which is already mentioned

10700k would be my choice for a PC of that caliber

he is adding ram check the dream pc part picker list


if it was useful give it a like :) btw if your into linux pay a visit here  and i will be thankful if you send me an opinion here  

 

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2 minutes ago, mahyar said:

he is adding ram check the dream pc part picker list

in that case, it'll be fine

assuming the RAM kits work together


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Just now, Moonzy said:

in that case, it'll be fine

assuming the RAM kits work together

they are the same kit


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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

adding? or replacing?

what's the final ram config gonna be like?

 

other than that, no comments other than CPU, which is already mentioned

10700k would be my choice for a PC of that caliber

Adding 16GB to my current 16GB for a total of 32GB; same model and specs.

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2 minutes ago, mahyar said:

they are the same kit

same model of kit =/= same kit

 

2x 2 DIMM kit =/= 4 DIMM kit


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be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

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Acer monitors, Gigabyte, Seagate HDD, Kingston SSD, Razer (except their mouse), XiaoMi Phones

 

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4K at 144hz is still a stretch. The 30 series cards *just* made 4K at a solid 60fps possible. If the game supports DLSS, you can get 144fps+ with DLSS on, but otherwise, if you're looking for high FPS, you're going to be targeting 1440p.

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Just now, Moonzy said:

same model of kit =/= same kit

 

2x 2 DIMM kit =/= 4 DIMM kit

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

same model of kit =/= same kit

 

2x 2 DIMM kit =/= 4 DIMM kit

Found my 3-year-old order on Amazon and used the same link. Same kits if we can trust Amazon.

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4 minutes ago, GonzoGeo said:

Found my 3-year-old order on Amazon and used the same link. Same kits if we can trust Amazon.

No, that’s not how it works. Amassing may bar right on the model, but be cause of how memory is, one kit sometimes won’t work with another of the same model. I would just sell your current and get a 2x16gb kit.


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    • NZXT AIO
  • Ryzen 5 3600
  • MSI B450i GAMING PLUS AC
  • XPG ADATA 2800Mhz
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13 minutes ago, GonzoGeo said:

Found my 3-year-old order on Amazon and used the same link. Same kits if we can trust Amazon.

 

17 minutes ago, mahyar said:

 

alright i'll reply, since the above answer by helpfultechwizard doesn't satisfy me entirely

RAM is iffy, even if it's the same brand and model, it may not work together if it's not from the same kit (ie, 4 sticks in a packaging with 4x8 printed on them)

 

will it work? probably yes (majority of the cases ive seen works ok)

but can it not work? yeap, ive seen a few mix and matches of the same model, spec, and brand that doesnt work, even if each individual stick works.

 

conclusion: mixing ram kits, even the same spec and model, doesnt guarantee it'll work together. but it'll likely work anyways.

 

should you sell your 2x8 to get 2x16? nah, probably unnecessary.

 

also, waiting for zen 3 doesnt sound too bad of an idea


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I hate Intel's pricing, Ryzen's weird quirks, Nvidia's pricing, and Radeon GPUs in general

 

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Products I like:

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Sony Xperia Z1 / Z2 / 10 ii, Asus Strix 970 / 1070, Samsung SSD, WD HDD, Corsair PSUs (AX, RM, CX(grey)), GeForce GPU, NZXT N450/S340, be quiet! Coolers, G.Skill Trident RAM, Logitech M525, Logitech G440, Razer Deathadder Elite

 

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Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

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be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

Companies I hate:

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Nvidia, Intel, Apple, TMT (Thundermatch, a retailer)

 

Personal Blacklisted Companies:

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Acer monitors, Gigabyte, Seagate HDD, Kingston SSD, Razer (except their mouse), XiaoMi Phones

 

Remember, just because I had good/bad experiences with these companies/product, doesn't mean you will have similar experiences too. I would still recommend these products if they made sense for your needs, but I'll add a disclaimer of my experience if it's relevant. Feel free to DM me asking why they are where they are.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

 

alright i'll reply, since the above answer by helpfultechwizard doesn't satisfy me entirely

RAM is iffy, even if it's the same brand and model, it may not work together if it's not from the same kit (ie, 4 sticks in a packaging with 4x8 printed on them)

 

will it work? probably yes (majority of the cases ive seen works ok)

but can it not work? yeap, ive seen a few mix and matches of the same model, spec, and brand that doesnt work, even if each individual stick works.

 

conclusion: mixing ram kits, even the same spec and model, doesnt guarantee it'll work together, but it'll likely work anyways.

 

should you sell your 2x8 to get 2x16? nah, probably unnecessary.

yeah there is no guarantee but imo the chance of it working is higher than chance of it not working


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2 minutes ago, mahyar said:

yeah there is no guarantee but imo the chance of it working is higher than chance of it not working

that's why i added a disclaimer, because i like to let people know what they're getting into

rather than letting them find out the hard way

 

26 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

in that case, it'll be fine

assuming the RAM kits work together

 


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I hate Intel's pricing, Ryzen's weird quirks, Nvidia's pricing, and Radeon GPUs in general

 

Spoiler

 

Products I like:

Spoiler

Sony Xperia Z1 / Z2 / 10 ii, Asus Strix 970 / 1070, Samsung SSD, WD HDD, Corsair PSUs (AX, RM, CX(grey)), GeForce GPU, NZXT N450/S340, be quiet! Coolers, G.Skill Trident RAM, Logitech M525, Logitech G440, Razer Deathadder Elite

 

Products I hate:

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Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

Spoiler

be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

Companies I hate:

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Nvidia, Intel, Apple, TMT (Thundermatch, a retailer)

 

Personal Blacklisted Companies:

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Acer monitors, Gigabyte, Seagate HDD, Kingston SSD, Razer (except their mouse), XiaoMi Phones

 

Remember, just because I had good/bad experiences with these companies/product, doesn't mean you will have similar experiences too. I would still recommend these products if they made sense for your needs, but I'll add a disclaimer of my experience if it's relevant. Feel free to DM me asking why they are where they are.

 

 

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why not just a 10600k? it overclocks a bit better than the 10700k and will be easier to keep cool. choice of cpu doesnt really matter at 4k, id just build with a solid b550/x570 platform with a 3600/3700x as a placeholder and pick up a zen 3 cpu if theyre good, although you wouldnt even need to upgrade there anyways. id stick with the h115i too, unless it needs replaced itll do at least as good as a d15 if not a bit better


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CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 (placeholder)

GPU: Gigabyte 980ti Xtreme (also placeholder), deshroud w/ generic 1200rpm 120mm fans x2, stock bios 130% power, no voltage offset: +70 core +400 mem 

Memory: 2x16gb GSkill Trident Z RGB 3600C16, 14-15-30-288@1.45v

Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming

Cooler: Noctua NH-D15S w/ white chromax bling
OS Drive: Samsung PM981 1tb (OEM 970 Evo)

Storage Drive: XPG SX8200 Pro 2tb

Backup Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 4TB

PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Titanium 750W w/ black/white Cablemod extensions
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Dark (to be replaced with a good case shortly)

basically everything was bought used off of reddit or here, only new component was the case. absolutely nutty deals for some of these parts, ill have to tally it all up once it's "done" :D 

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