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We are at an Amazing Time for Computer Graphics - Need a 4k 120Hz Panel to not Bottleneck

Yoshi Moshi

I've been using my 3090 for a few days now. I must say, I'm blow away. We are at the point in computer hardware, where you need a 4k 120 Hz panel in order to not bottleneck your GPU. Even in the most graphically demanding game (Control), on ultra with ray tracing and DLSS on - I'm getting well over 60 FPS at 4k and it's absolutely beautiful. Apparently statistically most people are on 1080p. I think the days are limited for 1080p. 1080p - you looked amazing when you came out, but your now dead to me, may you rest in peace. The only thing that is going to continue to drive 1080p is people who play first person shooters who want as many frames as possible. We are now going up to 1080p 360 Hz panels. I think we may be at the point of little to no difference for humans for anything higher than 360 Hz. More and more people are going to be saying bye to their 60 Hz 1080p panels and upgrading to a higher resolution and higher refresh rate. I reckon that within the next decade, 8k gaming will be possible. We are "almost" there now, and in the next generation or two I think we might be there. We will start to see 240 Hz 4k panels becoming common and the prices of 8k panels coming down. The only "bottleneck" will be having a big enough wall or desk to put your 8k panel on.

 

I'm blown away that I need a 120 Hz 4k panel to avoid bottlenecking, that is all.

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Are you looking for suggestions for 4K 120hz monitors or just sharing?

I am far from an expert in this so please correct me if I’m wrong.

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8 hours ago, Yoshi Moshi said:

I've been using my 3090 for a few days now. I must say, I'm blow away. We are at the point in computer hardware, where you need a 4k 120 Hz panel in order to not bottleneck your GPU. Even in the most graphically demanding game (Control), on ultra with ray tracing and DLSS on - I'm getting well over 60 FPS at 4k and it's absolutely beautiful. Apparently statistically most people are on 1080p. I think the days are limited for 1080p. 1080p - you looked amazing when you came out, but your now dead to me, may you rest in peace. The only thing that is going to continue to drive 1080p is people who play first person shooters who want as many frames as possible. We are now going up to 1080p 360 Hz panels. I think we may be at the point of little to no difference for humans for anything higher than 360 Hz. More and more people are going to be saying bye to their 60 Hz 1080p panels and upgrading to a higher resolution and higher refresh rate. I reckon that within the next decade, 8k gaming will be possible. We are "almost" there now, and in the next generation or two I think we might be there. We will start to see 240 Hz 4k panels becoming common and the prices of 8k panels coming down. The only "bottleneck" will be having a big enough wall or desk to put your 8k panel on.

 

I'm blown away that I need a 120 Hz 4k panel to avoid bottlenecking, that is all.

Resolutions are limited by monitor size - if you are are playing on a 27 inch monitor, do you really need 8K? If you game on a 48 inch monitor/TV then it might make sense. 
1080p looks fine on a 24 inch monitor for most people whereas 27 inch 1440p (144Hz) is considered the sweet spot. So unless you are playing PC games on a massive monitor, 8K is quite unnecessary. 

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11 hours ago, Yoshi Moshi said:

I've been using my 3090 for a few days now. I must say, I'm blow away. We are at the point in computer hardware, where you need a 4k 120 Hz panel in order to not bottleneck your GPU.

That is the same with a an overclocked 2080 ti. But at 3440 X 1440 some of these bottlenecks are gone and at 3840 X 1600 they are all gone. 

The 3090 isn't even an upgrade for me at 1080p but at 4k it is a big upgrade. To give you an idea my Time Spy graphic score is 16311 and the 3090 does 16600. With Time Spy Extreme it is a totally different story were my 2080 ti gets 7715 and the 3090 gets 10390. 

Since I use LG OLED TVs as monitors getting the 3090 seams to be the right choice for me.    

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.I reckon that within the next decade, 8k gaming will be possible. We are "almost" there now, and in the next generation or two I think we might be there. We will start to see 240 Hz 4k panels becoming common and the prices of 8k panels coming down. The only "bottleneck" will be having a big enough wall or desk to put your 8k panel on.

I my try it with the 40 series cards. It depends what LG does since I need 55" or less and VRR. 

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I'm blown away that I need a 120 Hz 4k panel to avoid bottlenecking, that is all.

Right now my older games like GTA 5 bottleneck at 4k. I will be interesting to see what newer games do with a 3090. I expect AC:O does since the 4k ultra 3090 score is only around 66fps and mine is 59fps.

 

Here is the video I got the scores from. If you have tried any and got better scores please let me know.

 

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