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Posted · Original PosterOP

My first time posting on the LTT forum, I would be lying if I said I wasn't a little bit nervous...¬†ūü§≠


As a long time watcher of LTT I decided earlier this year that I wanted a PC to play some games every now and again. I bought a used Fujitsu ESPRIMO P2760, a used Radeon RX580 and bought a new power supply because the original one didn't have a connector for the GPU. It's being well enough so far, I've notice little to no issues with GTA V but did have some light stuttering playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Earlier this week I tried Watch Dogs 2 (because free in the Epic Store) and when driving it just freezes for a second sometimes.
Now I'm not expecting to get top notch performance with my budget build. I would like it to look pretty but it's more important to me that it runs without stuttering.
I've paid ‚ā¨100 for the computer, ‚ā¨100 for the GPU, ‚ā¨75 for the power supply so this thing has cost me ‚ā¨275.

 

So here's the question I've been leading up to:

What would be the best upgrade? The CPU's the issue (according to Radeon Software) but would that be cost effective to upgrade or should I buy another used machine with a better CPU and try to sell this one?

 

This are the specs of my computer:

 

Motherboard        Fujitsu Esprimo P2760 Socket 1156 (Micro ATX)
Processor            Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz, 3201 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
RAM                    8GB (4x2GB) 1666 MHz
GPU                    Sapphire Pulse AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB OC Edition
Storage               120GB SSD + 500GB HDD
Power supply      I forgot what I bought exactly but that one's good

 

And some extra info:

 

Location             The Netherlands
Budget¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬† ¬†Around ‚ā¨100 - ‚ā¨150 (‚ā¨100 if I have to pay it all, ‚ā¨150 if I can reclaim some of those costs by selling my old machine)
Aim                    Update my current setup as it's lacking in some games like Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
Monitors            3 connected but only 1 in use during games (either TV or monitor), 2 for office use (2 monitors)
Peripherals       All set in that department. I've got a decent enough mechanical keyboard, mouse and a Xbox One controller for couch gaming.
 

Your help (and even your time if you made is this far) is very much appreciated!

I've attached a picture of my dog as a thank you gift.

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well imo if you sell your current setup (not gpu and psu)

you can get a good enough experience in shottr 


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I'd say save up for more as you are in need of a whole system replacement here. Could you tell us what psu?

 

A good cpu+motherboard+ram is not found for 100-150‚ā¨ new. Used could be an option but I'm not too certain about how long older i7's are still going to be good enough with the new consoles launching in a bit over a month from now.

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1st gen i5 is not good that would be a 10 year old cpu with a fairly moderate gpu worst thing I would do is upgrade your cpu and mobo I would go on eBay and try to find a 5th gen i5 or i7 and buy a cheat intel board. Bride for use case I don't see any reason to overclock. I think the rx 580 Is a good card me personally I would of gone for the 5500 xt but to each their own and also get more ram price out how much you can get a cpu and mobo for and spend the rest of memory. Your ssd and hdd are fine as long as your hdd is 7200 rpm

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This may require a whole system overhaul, with new memory, CPU and motherboard, which 100-150 euros definitely won't cover if you decide to go new. You could probably look into used Dell Optiplexes (or any OEM system with an i7 or something) to see if that would be a worthwhile option for you in Europe. Maybe if you play your cards right you can find a CPU / Motherboard combo on the DDR3 (before 6th gen Intel to put it into prospective) platform for a good enough price. 

 

Also cute dog!


Main PC: R7 3700X | 16GB DDR4 3000MHz RAM | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super | ASUS Prime B350 PLUS Motherboard | Alienware AW3418DW 3440x1440 100Hz | Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Keyboard | Logitech Trackman (for web browsing) and Logitech G603 (for video editing)

 

Laptop (HP Envy x360): Intel Core i7 10510U | 16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM | NVIDIA GeForce MX250

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1 minute ago, CSWX said:

This may require a whole system overhaul, with new memory, CPU and motherboard, which 100-150 euros definitely won't cover if you decide to go new. You could probably look into used Dell Optiplexes (or any OEM system with a 3rd gen i7 or newer) to see if that would be a worthwhile option for you in Europe. Maybe if you play your cards right you can find a CPU / Motherboard combo on the DDR3 (before 6th gen Intel to put it into prospective) platform for a good enough price. 

 

Also cute dog!

Whoops, didn't mean to post twice! Meant to edit my original post.


Main PC: R7 3700X | 16GB DDR4 3000MHz RAM | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Super | ASUS Prime B350 PLUS Motherboard | Alienware AW3418DW 3440x1440 100Hz | Microsoft Sculpt Ergonomic Keyboard | Logitech Trackman (for web browsing) and Logitech G603 (for video editing)

 

Laptop (HP Envy x360): Intel Core i7 10510U | 16GB DDR4 2666MHz RAM | NVIDIA GeForce MX250

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 hours ago, jaslion said:

I'd say save up for more as you are in need of a whole system replacement here. Could you tell us what psu?

 

A good cpu+motherboard+ram is not found for 100-150‚ā¨ new. Used could be an option but I'm not too certain about how long older i7's are still going to be good enough with the new consoles launching in a bit over a month from now.

It's not so easy to get to with how everything is set up so I'm going by memory here. I believe it's a Cooler Master MWE 750.

Regarding your last remark, why would older i7's not be good enough? If they're good enough to play current games than that's enough I would reckon. Would there be a different reason other than future proofing to go for something higher end than older i7's?

 

3 hours ago, outright said:

1st gen i5 is not good that would be a 10 year old cpu with a fairly moderate gpu worst thing I would do is upgrade your cpu and mobo I would go on eBay and try to find a 5th gen i5 or i7 and buy a cheat intel board. Bride for use case I don't see any reason to overclock. I think the rx 580 Is a good card me personally I would of gone for the 5500 xt but to each their own and also get more ram price out how much you can get a cpu and mobo for and spend the rest of memory. Your ssd and hdd are fine as long as your hdd is 7200 rpm

So try to find a second hand motherboard and cpu on the cheap and spent the rest on memory, check.
(GPU choice was decided on price and availability, that part is luckily working just fine.)
 

 

1 hour ago, CSWX said:

This may require a whole system overhaul, with new memory, CPU and motherboard, which 100-150 euros definitely won't cover if you decide to go new. You could probably look into used Dell Optiplexes (or any OEM system with an i7 or something) to see if that would be a worthwhile option for you in Europe. Maybe if you play your cards right you can find a CPU / Motherboard combo on the DDR3 (before 6th gen Intel to put it into prospective) platform for a good enough price. 

 

Also cute dog!

 

I'm definitely going second hand. You suggested a Dell Optiplex, would the 7010 model with an i7-3770 with 8GB of ram (in I believe 2 sticks)¬†for around ‚ā¨150 - ‚ā¨170 be a good deal? Or would that at least be the right direction to search in, a quadcore 3.something ghz CPU with DDR3 ram?

(And the dog is even cuter than he looks here! But of course all dog owners would say that...)

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19 minutes ago, Folg said:

I'm definitely going second hand. You suggested a Dell Optiplex, would the 7010 model with an i7-3770 with 8GB of ram (in I believe 2 sticks)¬†for around ‚ā¨150 - ‚ā¨170 be a good deal? Or would that at least be the right direction to search in, a quadcore 3.something ghz CPU with DDR3 ram?

(And the dog is even cuter than he looks here! But of course all dog owners would say that...)

The more recent the i7 the better. Do make sure that the motherboard on whatever system you find is compatible with a standard atx psu and doesn't use weird connectors like they like to do.

 

What you want is at the very least a 4 core 8 thread cpu that has the performance of a i7 2600k at the minimum. Don't bother with anything amd fx as that stuff is just bad.

 

Your psu is good to go.

 

I did indeed suggest that older i7's aren't great anymore. The first gen i7's are not something you should get and the second gen stuff (2600k and such) is really showing it's age and still able to get 60fps but it's getting to a point where in another year that may start getting really hard for it to pull off consistently.

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