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what sony and Microsoft do with faulty cpu/gpus?

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what sony and Microsoft do with faulty cpu/gpus?

witb this i dont mean dead chips,what i mean is chips what wont pass requirements to end in new xbox or ps5.surely they get some bad chips?

i just wonder wil faulty chips end in nitendo switch and ohter similar stuff?

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No nintendo doesnt use failed chips from sony and microsoft, thats not at all how things work lol. They generally either get recycled or tossed, these are already bargain bin chips, they are the outermost of the wafers to keep the costs down. What Microsoft could have done with the New CorsairXbox and The MiniXbox is use the lower yields from the more powerful machine in the cheaper model to cut costs even more.

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they dont make the chips. intel, amd, snapdragon and such make them.

but if they were faulty by chance (poor inspection and quality control, shipping, poor handling, etc) they would do what you do. probably send for a refund


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probably recycles/binned for chips that dont perform up to spec

or if they get a lot of chips that does work but performs under spec, they could release a lower tier product.


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22 minutes ago, eeeee1 said:

they dont make the chips. intel, amd, snapdragon and such make them.

but if they were faulty by chance (poor inspection and quality control, shipping, poor handling, etc) they would do what you do. probably send for a refund

You say this, and this isnt even true either lol :P Come on you try to sound smart but in the end make the mistake :P TSMC makes all AMDS chips. Intel Makes their own BUT will soon also use TSMC. Samsung Makes Pretty much all of Qualcams (snapdragon) chips, and will for the next few years after the contract :P

 

And there is no refund, there is a Set loss per wafer when manufacturing. They order a certain amount of chips and OF those chips they can also decide to buy the lower yield chips at a different rate  for a different product if they choose to do so.

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I do wonder if they can pull Costco like moves and just dump the faulty chips at the doors of AMD with a note saying that they're not paying for these. If they're a big enough revenue stream for AMD, that just might be possible. 


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2 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

You say this, and this isnt even true either lol :P Come on you try to sound smart but in the end make the mistake :P TSCM makes all AMDS chips. Intel Makes their own BUT will soon also use TSCM. Samsung Makes Pretty much all of Qualcams (snapdragon) chips, and will for the next few years after the contract :P

 

And there is no refund, there is a Set loss per wafer when manufacturing. They order a certain amount of chips and OF those chips they can also decide to buy the lower yield chips at a different rate  for a different product if they choose to do so.

rofl same goes for you. your eq is probably as high as the amount of 😛 faces you make. not saying im right but your response is pretty rude and uncalled for.


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AMD makes them, and before handing over to MS / Sony, they would bin the ones that doesn't check out.

What to do with those CPU, some maybe to power the lower grade Series S (i dont know if there's any difference with X).

The rest of it goes to the dumpster.

Silicon are cheap, the bulk of the cost is the manufacturing process.


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6 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

I do wonder if they can pull Costco like moves and just dump the faulty chips at the doors of AMD with a note saying that they're not paying for these. If they're a big enough revenue stream for AMD, that just might be possible. 

I would suspect if the percent of chips that don't meet the min specs that they require is high enough, that would be a possibility but that would probably be caught by TSMC and/or AMD (not sure which one would check chips before shipping to customers, but I'm guessing at least one of them does) before the chips get to Microsoft or Sony.

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12 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

You say this, and this isnt even true either lol :P Come on you try to sound smart but in the end make the mistake :P TSCM makes all AMDS chips. Intel Makes their own BUT will soon also use TSCM. Samsung Makes Pretty much all of Qualcams (snapdragon) chips, and will for the next few years after the contract :P

 

And there is no refund, there is a Set loss per wafer when manufacturing. They order a certain amount of chips and OF those chips they can also decide to buy the lower yield chips at a different rate  for a different product if they choose to do so.

Sorry can't help myself, it's TSMC (Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company), not TSCM.:P

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1 hour ago, aqarwaen29 said:

what sony and Microsoft do with faulty cpu/gpus?

witb this i dont mean dead chips,what i mean is chips what wont pass requirements to end in new xbox or ps5.surely they get some bad chips?

i just wonder wil faulty chips end in nitendo switch and ohter similar stuff?

Sony and Microsoft use AMD CPU/GPU's. Nintendo uses the Nvidia TEGRA CPU which is an ARM based CPU. 

 

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10 hours ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

I do wonder if they can pull Costco like moves and just dump the faulty chips at the doors of AMD with a note saying that they're not paying for these. If they're a big enough revenue stream for AMD, that just might be possible. 

No, but there would be some kind of reconcileation process. At some number of bad chips, there's a penalty or discount or something..the contracts would have set guarantees and penaltees for missing those..

 


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