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Need a mobo to oc future ryzen cpu's

i know no one knows the Overclocking capability of amd's future 4th gen cpu's but im looking for a mobo mainly an x570 cuz these are usually the high end mobos for AM4 chipsets that i can use for a 3090 ryzen 9 4900x (supposing that that will be the name of amd's new high end cpu line up) 32gb ram 3200mhz (ik its not fast but i dont think it make a very big difference). Im gonna try to oc just a little bit probably not too much. my budget is 400$. i was looking at the asus rog crosshair VIII Hero looks good and everything but i dont know if it has good oc capabilities for 4th gen obviously no one knows but i just want like an insight. also ill be using an 850 w psu i may increase that to 1000

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Just now, boggy77 said:

i'd go for the tomahawk. it's cheap with excellent overcloking capabilities

but which is better in terms of oc capabilities the tomahawk or the crosshair hero VIII

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11 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

but which is better in terms of oc capabilities the tomahawk or the crosshair hero VIII

crosshair hero VIII by a long shot.

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16 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

but which is better in terms of oc capabilities the tomahawk or the crosshair hero VIII

crosshair hero is better if you want extreme overclocking using LN2 and such. for normal overclocking with air/water cooling, the tomahawk is very capable and much cheaper.

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34 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

i know no one knows the Overclocking capability of amd's future 4th gen cpu's but im looking for a mobo mainly an x570 cuz these are usually the high end mobos for AM4 chipsets that i can use for a 3090 ryzen 9 4900x (supposing that that will be the name of amd's new high end cpu line up) 32gb ram 3200mhz (ik its not fast but i dont think it make a very big difference). Im gonna try to oc just a little bit probably not too much. my budget is 400$. i was looking at the asus rog crosshair VIII Hero looks good and everything but i dont know if it has good oc capabilities for 4th gen obviously no one knows but i just want like an insight. also ill be using an 850 w psu i may increase that to 1000

Why not just wait for the next high end chipset, built for Zen 3?

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1 hour ago, InfernalClaw said:

no one knows but i just want like an insight. also ill be using an 850 w psu i may increase that to 1000

Just like you said, no one knows, we don't know their power consumption, we don't know how well they overclock, we don't know anything, if you're buying a zen 3 cpu, buy a board then and not now. 

But the Hero uses an ASP1405 and 14 IR3555 for the vcore, good board if you're into ln2 and heavy overclocking, if you're a casual user, this board wont be a good choice as it's not a casual user friendly board. 

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14 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Why not just wait for the next high end chipset, built for Zen 3?

I honestly don't think there would be one. It would only be compatible with one generation since Zen 4 will be on AM5.

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1 hour ago, Fatih19 said:

I honestly don't think there would be one. It would only be compatible with one generation since Zen 4 will be on AM5.

Litterally never stopped AMD or Intel before. 600-series chipsets have been rumoured/leaked since January

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/future-hardware-releases/

 

Additionally, most if not all are backwards compatible to some degree; Hence I can run Summit Ridge on X470.

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2 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Litterally never stopped AMD or Intel before. 600-series chipsets have been rumoured/leaked since January

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/future-hardware-releases/

 

Additionally, most if not all are backwards compatible to some degree; Hence I can run Summit Ridge on X470.

Sure, but why buy them? It's only for 1 generation.

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1 minute ago, Fatih19 said:

Sure, but why buy them? It's only for 1 generation.

People continue to buy 9000-series Intel chips despite being already superceded. Most people don't upgrade just a CPU.

Additionally, it'd be stupid to not release a 600-series chipset, as there is many motherboards that don't support Zen 3 out of the box. (All 500 series at this time).

 

People want something that works out of the box.

This is getting off topic, so I'm ending it here.

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I'd suggest you to wait and buy a board after the cpus will be released. The board you are going to buy may not be compatible enough to push the CPU you are going to buy, so it's safer to wait post-release

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3 hours ago, svmlegacy said:

Why not just wait for the next high end chipset, built for Zen 3?

oh i didnt know they were gonna release new mobos my bad. im gonna be getting this pc after like 9 months so theres still a long time left xD

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2 hours ago, Raptor_Fawr said:

I'd suggest you to wait and buy a board after the cpus will be released. The board you are going to buy may not be compatible enough to push the CPU you are going to buy, so it's safer to wait post-release

yes u are defo right but im not gonna buy now i forgot to mention that in the post my bad

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