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Go to solution Solved by Moonzy,

ok, lets get things in order

issues:

1) SOTR CPU limited (solved, it's really cpu limited, based on game benchmark's info, and the fps is about what i'd expect)

2) GPU not utilising 100% 

3) GPU running hot when it's above 90% usage

 

solution:

1) new cpu to raise FPS, new monitor to utilise gpu more, but will get lower avg fps if you also face gpu bound

2) run unigine heaven, you'll be able to stress test the gpu to make sure it's not a faulty unit

3) side panel test, if it worked then 

3a) change casing

3b) reconfigure current setup to fully utilise what you currently have

 

did i miss anything?

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Just now, -rascal- said:

 

You noticed a significant temp change eh?

I'm still rocking a S340 Elite for one of my secondary systems -- it's almost due for an overhaul.

275R Airlfow is a pretty nice case (built a Ryzen 3600 system for my cousin using that case last year)

Yeah, overall case flow improved. It's hard to say because I don't have a completely controlled environment like real reviewers, but suffice it to say that before when my GPU temperatures would hit 80c on memory and 90c on hotspot, they are a good 5c lower on average. I think that's significant.

 

Plus, that acrylic side panel was scratched from day 1. The glass is so much prettier.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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2 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

S340 Elite

derail, but it's not THAT bad, compared to their more recent rubbish

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

derail, but it's not THAT bad, compared to their more recent rubbish

If it's anything like the standard S340, it has pretty weak airflow and adding fans in the front doesn't really help too much. I had 2x140mm corsair fans in mine and i don't know if they even did anything. 

 

The only way that case seems to perform well is if you have super powerful exhaust fans..

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17 minutes ago, Voluspa said:

Does WoW have a built in FPS counter? If so, what are you getting?

 

ranging from 100 - 200 fps depending on where I am 

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Just now, GoldMichi said:

ranging from 100 - 200 fps depending on where I am 

that isn't going to even sweat your GPU in classic, unless something else is terribly wrong

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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1 minute ago, GoldMichi said:

ranging from 100 - 200 fps depending on where I am 

If you go into the settings and lock the FPS lower, does it move your usage down?

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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Just now, Voluspa said:

If you go into the settings and lock the FPS lower, does it move your usage down?

yes it does, when I'm locking them to say 60 fps. getting around 50% gpu usage

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Just now, GoldMichi said:

yes it does, when I'm locking them to say 60 fps. getting around 50% gpu usage

So you have a game telling the 3080 "Give me all you got!". 3080 says "Hold my beverage!" and you get 350 watts of TDP. Which goes back to what @Moonzy was saying with iffy thermals in that pc case. 

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

that isn't going to even sweat your GPU in classic, unless something else is terribly wrong

I thought so too... but can't figure out what. but yeah as the others stated; probably poorly selected case and inoptimal airflow and such probably work together to make my build perform so bad

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reminder: limiting fps is not a fix, it's a bandaid solution

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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2 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

I thought so too... but can't figure out what. but yeah as the others stated; probably poorly selected case and inoptimal airflow and such probably work together to make my build perform so bad

still not really explaining the low CPU render values from sottr

 

hmm

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

reminder: limiting fps is not a fix, it's a bandaid solution

so what you're saying is: get a new case, don't install gpu vertically and everything should be fine?

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2 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

I thought so too... but can't figure out what. but yeah as the others stated; probably poorly selected case and inoptimal airflow and such probably work together to make my build perform so bad

Just moving your 3080 to horizontal mount might help some. I know in my case with about that 4 inches you were talking about, I've got 5 or so degree C difference in horizontal compared to vertical. That's with tons of fans, radiator not being intake etc.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

still not really explaining the low CPU render values from sottr

 

hmm

I don't even know at this point ^^ probably best off selling my gpu and going back to my old build

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Just now, Voluspa said:

Just moving your 3080 to horizontal mount might help some. I know in my case with about that 4 inches you were talking about, I've got 5 or so degree C difference in horizontal compared to vertical. That's with tons of fans, radiator not being intake etc.

I'll try remounting my gpu tomorrow and I'll let you guys know

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3 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

so what you're saying is: get a new case, don't install gpu vertically and everything should be fine?

define "everything"

we've been solving one issue to the next

 

did you even try the side panel test to verify if it truly is airflow issue?

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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7 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

I don't even know at this point ^^ probably best off selling my gpu and going back to my old build

You have the opportunity to turn a profit tbh

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4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

define "everything"

we've been solving one issue to the next

 

did you even try the side panel test to verify if it truly is airflow issue?

removed it and it renders me much better temps (around 60 °C) and also the gpu isn't maxed out

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8 minutes ago, Voluspa said:

Just moving your 3080 to horizontal mount might help some. I know in my case with about that 4 inches you were talking about, I've got 5 or so degree C difference in horizontal compared to vertical. That's with tons of fans, radiator not being intake etc.

If he's using a vertical mount, perhaps there might be an issue with the PCIE extender?

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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To get back to SOTR, out of curiosity, what is your DLSS setting on? Also, in your graphics settings picture you showed, what's the "Aus" mean next to the Raytracing settings?

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

Project Hot Box

CPU 13900k, Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Elite AX, RAM CORSAIR Vengeance 4x16gb 5200 MHZ, GPU Zotac RTX 4090 Trinity OC, Case Fractal Pop Air XL, Storage Sabrent Rocket Q4 2tb, CORSAIR Force Series MP510 1920GB NVMe, CORSAIR FORCE Series MP510 960GB NVMe, PSU CORSAIR HX1000i, Cooling Corsair XC8 CPU block, Bykski GPU block, 360mm and 280mm radiator, Displays Odyssey G9, LG 34UC98-W 34-Inch,Keyboard Mountain Everest Max, Mouse Mountain Makalu 67, Sound AT2035, Massdrop 6xx headphones, Go XLR 

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Why is the 5800x so hot?

 

 

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removed it and it renders me much better temps (around 60 °C) and also the gpu isn't maxed out

sidepanelremoved2.PNG

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is that with limited FPS or unlimited?

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Just now, Mister Woof said:

You have the opportunity to turn a profit tbh

lol yeah, especially in switzerland where the gpu is so damn limited ^^ might be able to sell it for 1000 CHF (1000 dollars)

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1 minute ago, GoldMichi said:

unlimited

 Alliance > Horde by the way.

 

Edit: forgot to add: YOU HORDE SCUM!

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3 minutes ago, Voluspa said:

To get back to SOTR, out of curiosity, what is your DLSS setting on? Also, in your graphics settings picture you showed, what's the "Aus" mean next to the Raytracing settings?

haven't messed with dlss yet... Aus means "turned off" in english

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