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RTX 3080 performing as poor as my old GTX 1070 Ti

ok, lets get things in order

issues:

1) SOTR CPU limited (solved, it's really cpu limited, based on game benchmark's info, and the fps is about what i'd expect)

2) GPU not utilising 100% 

3) GPU running hot when it's above 90% usage

 

solution:

1) new cpu to raise FPS, new monitor to utilise gpu more, but will get lower avg fps if you also face gpu bound

2) run unigine heaven, you'll be able to stress test the gpu to make sure it's not a faulty unit

3) side panel test, if it worked then 

3a) change casing

3b) reconfigure current setup to fully utilise what you currently have

 

did i miss anything?

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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

how close is it from side panel? vertical mounted GPU can have high temps if it's very close to the glass

less than 4 inch is too close

can we also get a photo of the front of the casing?

 

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1 minute ago, GoldMichi said:

 

 

Able to get Task Manager to show per-core usage instead?

(Work PC, so don't judge peasantry CPU)

image.thumb.png.f6c8dc4c13615556f708f172583c7f7f.png

 

EDIT:

Just saw your latest post.

4.3GHz, given that usage, and i7-8700's boost profile, 3 ~ 4 cores are active at a time.

 

What computer case is that?

Does it have a solid glass panel at the front or something?

 

80*C within reasonable GPU temperature range.


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so basically a very restrictive front panel + your CPU radiator pre-heating the air

explains why your GPU temps are high

 

remove the side panel while computer is running, you'll probably see ~10-15c drop


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Posted · Original PosterOP
2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

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this thread is limiting you, as i've mentioned before

makes sense, but 99% gpu usage and 170 Fahrenheit is quite odd, or not?

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2 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

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Oh...well there you go.

That answers the "higher" temperature question.

A solid panel at the front...there goes great intake airflow.


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2 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

80*C within reasonable GPU temperature range.

not really, especially if it's not running full tilt

for a card of that caliber, i accept below 75c, or even 70c when running full tilt in a well ventilated case

 

it is safe, but it is also abnormal


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

 

Able to get Task Manager to show per-core usage instead?

(Work PC, so don't judge peasantry CPU)

image.thumb.png.f6c8dc4c13615556f708f172583c7f7f.png

 

EDIT:

Just saw your latest post.

4.3GHz, given that usage, and i7-8700's boost profile, 3 ~ 4 cores are active at a time.

 

What computer case is that?

Does it have a solid glass panel at the front or something?

 

80*C within reasonable GPU temperature range.

it's a bitfenix rgb black. quite old. no judgement here lol :D

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Just now, Moonzy said:

not really, especially if it's not running full tilt

for a card of that caliber, i accept below 75c, or even 70c when running full tilt in a well ventilated case

 

Just saw the picture of the case front.

These updates are coming in too damn fast~!!

😂


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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

not really, especially if it's not running full tilt

for a card of that caliber, i accept below 75c, or even 70c when running full tilt in a well ventilated case

but when playing wow, in exactly the same setup I got around 50 - 60 °C on my GTX 1070 Ti

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Just now, -rascal- said:

 

Just saw the picture of the case front.

These updates are coming in too damn fast~!!

😂

Hahaha sorry man xD trying to keep up with you guys lol. Nah but actually, thank you guys for trying to help me

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1 minute ago, GoldMichi said:

but when playing wow, in exactly the same setup I got around 50 - 60 °C on my GTX 1070 Ti

you're comparing a ~170W card with a 350W card

it's double the amount of heat


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4 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

makes sense, but 99% gpu usage and 170 Fahrenheit is quite odd, or not?

 

4 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

so basically a very restrictive front panel + your CPU radiator pre-heating the air

explains why your GPU temps are high

 

remove the side panel while computer is running, you'll probably see ~10-15c drop

try what i said


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Seagate HDD: had too many dead seagate drives

Kingston SSD: 300V controller swap thingy

Razer (except their mouse)

 

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3 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

but when playing wow, in exactly the same setup I got around 50 - 60 °C on my GTX 1070 Ti

You're also looking at almost double the TDP.

 

Edit: was beat to it. The 3000s have the larger cooler because they make so much more heat. It doesn't make them run "cooler" it just helps get rid of the heat quicker. In a case like that, it makes sense for it to be warmer.


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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

 

try what i said

I will, but that doesn't explain the 99% Gpu usage. Or am I missing something?

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Just now, GoldMichi said:

I will, but that doesn't explain the 99% Gpu usage. Or am I missing something?

you're using the GPU? idk how else i would explain that


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Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

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XiaoMi Phones: built like a tank but the software is buggy as all hell

Seagate HDD: had too many dead seagate drives

Kingston SSD: 300V controller swap thingy

Razer (except their mouse)

 

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Can't be sure if this is exactly the case, but I personally moved away from full-front closed case and found my GPU temperatures improved significantly.

 

Went from an S340 to a Corsair 275R Airflow and couldn't be happier.


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4 minutes ago, Voluspa said:

You're also looking at almost double the TDP.

 

Edit: was beat to it. The 3000s have the larger cooler because they make so much more heat. It doesn't make them run "cooler" it just helps get rid of the heat quicker. In a case like that, it makes sense for it to be warmer.

Makes perfect sense to me. But 80+ °C is too much for a game like Wow classic, I feel like.

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1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

Can't be sure if this is exactly the case, but I personally moved away from full-front closed case and found my GPU temperatures improved significantly.

 

Went from an S340 to a Corsair 275R Airflow and couldn't be happier.

I'm planning on upgrading the case anyway, but it still seems quite extreme to me lol.

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1 minute ago, GoldMichi said:

I'm planning on upgrading the case anyway, but it still seems quite extreme to me lol.

Have you tried firestrike and other types of GPU only benchmarks?

 

 


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2 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

Makes perfect sense to me. But 80+ °C is too much for a game like Wow classic, I feel like.

your case's front panel doesnt allow a lot of air flow in + the little airflow is pre-heated by the CPU's radiator

so yes it's not too abnormal to see these temps under these circumstances, but it's not how a good computer should be configured


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3 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

Makes perfect sense to me. But 80+ °C is too much for a game like Wow classic, I feel like.

Does WoW have a built in FPS counter? If so, what are you getting?

 


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2 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

I'm planning on upgrading the case anyway, but it still seems quite extreme to me lol.

open side panel test will prove if my airflow theory is right


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1 minute ago, Voluspa said:

Does WoW have a built in FPS counter? If so, what are you getting?

 

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WoW generally isn't a very good GPU benchmarking tool. Inconsistent results depending on how many other players are on screen, and what are they doing.

 

It will bring any GPU to a halt, depending on scenario. 50-60fps is still common in some places even with monster hardware.


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3 minutes ago, GoldMichi said:

Makes perfect sense to me. But 80+ °C is too much for a game like Wow classic, I feel like.

what are you talking about? do you CAP your fps in wow classic? if not then of course the gpu will give you 500000 fps and also get warm. cap the fps and you wont get 80 degrees. just because you play a shitty looking game it doesnt mean the gpu doesnt get hot or get used.

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3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Can't be sure if this is exactly the case, but I personally moved away from full-front closed case and found my GPU temperatures improved significantly.

 

Went from an S340 to a Corsair 275R Airflow and couldn't be happier.

 

You noticed a significant temp change eh?

I'm still rocking a S340 Elite for one of my secondary systems -- it's almost due for an overhaul.

275R Airlfow is a pretty nice case (built a Ryzen 3600 system for my cousin using that case last year)


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