Best 3090 model to watercool?

[SupaKomputa]

1 minute ago, The Blackhat said:

The FE cards get the most waterblocks, period. Always have, so your notion that aftermarket blocks are mostly for AIB cards is plain wrong. Though this gen FE doesn't get the reference design, so who knows what waterblock makers are doing this time around.

I meant if you're trying to do it with a universal gpu block, what's is already on the market.

Absolutely there would be a custom waterblock for the FE, but so far i haven't seen one.

[The Blackhat]

21 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

I meant if you're trying to do it with a universal gpu block, what's is already on the market.

Absolutely there would be a custom waterblock for the FE, but so far i haven't seen one.

I get the feeling you haven't actually done a custom loop before. Universal GPU blocks are just that, universal, and tend to be core only. FE historically has had the most blocks from the most makers, but that's also because it was a reference PCB. Custom AIB models get little to 0 block models from virtually all the manufacturers outside of the trash like EK and Phanteks or the shotgun spray that is Bykski and Barrow. 

[TheNaitsyrk]

By older games I mean ones that support SLI so that it can be played at ridiculous settings.

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

Everyone always hating on the @TheNaitsyrk builds/desires - keep on letting me view that crazy setup, and high end hardware, I live vicariously through your posts as I cant afford that shit lol

Thanks for the kind words, I just like high end hardware and tinkering.

[Tristerin]

Just now, TheNaitsyrk said:

 I just like high end hardware and tinkering.

Like your loop..its just...well you MAY (or may not, only one way to find out!) have hit a point that thermals cannot be improved.  But who cares, all those radiators make me wet.  And until you add more fans and rads you just wont know for certain

[TheNaitsyrk]

Just now, Tristerin said:

Like your loop..its just...well you MAY (or may not, only one way to find out!) have hit a point that thermals cannot be improved.  But who cares, all those radiators make me wet.  And until you add more fans and rads you just wont know for certain

Yeah it was like a test kind of thing. Worst case scenario, I make all fans spin at ridiculously low setting and temperature won't be impacted at all. I also want to point AC at it so that it stay very very cool.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Yeah it was like a test kind of thing. Worst case scenario, I make all fans spin at ridiculously low setting and temperature won't be impacted at all. I also want to point AC at it so that it stay very very cool.

Indeed. Nothing beats overkill rad setups.

Plenty of benching time before saturation.

[Zberg]

38 minutes ago, Den-Fi said:

Indeed. Nothing beats overkill rad setups.

Plenty of benching time before saturation.

Ya, i really want to upsize my case and get another big rad for this reason.  A 360 thickboy rad and a 280 together are doing a fine job, but I would love to be able to have all my fans set to like 600 RPM and keep decent temps for a long time.  

 

With regard to the OP, thought I saw a huge OC on the strix 3080 rumor?  Dont know if that would translate to the 3090, but in theory if they are putting the 3 x8 pin set up and the increased power delivery that goes along with it, might translate to more OC.

 

I would put my money on the strix gaming OC or the FTW3 ultra gaming.  

 

Looking forward to Den-Fi's 3090 SLI pics (he takes some damn nice ones!)...I knew he wouldn't let us down  

[Zberg]

My question is what's up with the review embargo?  Are they really going to release reviews on the same day as launch?

 

Maybe that's a way to calm down the bots?

[cried22]

6 hours ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

By older games I mean ones that support SLI so that it can be played at ridiculous settings.

Thanks for the kind words, I just like high end hardware and tinkering.

It's obviously the EVGA Kingpin due to the high power limit. You have been around the block. Seems like you already know this and are just posting for attention.

[Plermpel]

EK makes a waterblock for ASUS Strix and and Reference AIB cards, there will also be a block for ASUS TUF and FE. 

Alphacool makes a block for Reference AIB Cards, according to their datasheet those cards will be reference (not confirmed), they also have some MSI cards listet but I doubt they will use reference design. 

 

List:

Gainward RTX 3090 Phoenix
Gainward RTX 3090 Phoenix GS
Galakuro NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090
Galax GeForce RTX 3090 SG
Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X3
Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090 iChill X3
Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090 iChill X4
KFA2 GeForce RTX 3090 SG
Palit GeForce RTX 3090 GamingPro
Palit GeForce RTX 3090 GamingPro OC
PNY GeForce RTX 3090 OC XLR8
PNY GeForce RTX 3090 XLR8
Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity 

 

EDIT: Strix card will probably have the best VRMs but can't afford that I will go with a refernce card with EKWB on it. 

[TheNaitsyrk]

13 hours ago, cried22 said:

It's obviously the EVGA Kingpin due to the high power limit. You have been around the block. Seems like you already know this and are just posting for attention.

Kingpin is not worth the money.

[For Science!]

2 hours ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Kingpin is not worth the money.

So somewhere on the spectrum of SLI 3090 being "worth the money" and Kingpin 3090s being "not worth the money" you will have the "best 3090 to watercool for SLI"

 

Only you know what you think is worth it. Something like a Strix or find the dirtiest cheapest 3090 that uses a reference board 

[cried22]

4 hours ago, For Science! said:

So somewhere on the spectrum of SLI 3090 being "worth the money" and Kingpin 3090s being "not worth the money" you will have the "best 3090 to watercool for SLI"

Exactly. Doesn't make sense.

[TheNaitsyrk]

20 hours ago, For Science! said:

So somewhere on the spectrum of SLI 3090 being "worth the money" and Kingpin 3090s being "not worth the money" you will have the "best 3090 to watercool for SLI"

 

Only you know what you think is worth it. Something like a Strix or find the dirtiest cheapest 3090 that uses a reference board 

Kingpin might be over £2k, so that's what I mean by not worth it. Something along the lines of £1500 would be though.

 

Because two of these would be £4k and 2x Strixes for e.g. £1500 totalling £3000 is £1000 off which is worth it more than the KPNs.

 

 

[TheNaitsyrk]

On 9/23/2020 at 11:11 PM, Plermpel said:

EK makes a waterblock for ASUS Strix and and Reference AIB cards, there will also be a block for ASUS TUF and FE. 

Alphacool makes a block for Reference AIB Cards, according to their datasheet those cards will be reference (not confirmed), they also have some MSI cards listet but I doubt they will use reference design. 

 

List:

Gainward RTX 3090 Phoenix
Gainward RTX 3090 Phoenix GS
Galakuro NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3090
Galax GeForce RTX 3090 SG
Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090 Gaming X3
Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090 iChill X3
Inno3D GeForce RTX 3090 iChill X4
KFA2 GeForce RTX 3090 SG
Palit GeForce RTX 3090 GamingPro
Palit GeForce RTX 3090 GamingPro OC
PNY GeForce RTX 3090 OC XLR8
PNY GeForce RTX 3090 XLR8
Zotac GeForce RTX 3090 Trinity 

 

EDIT: Strix card will probably have the best VRMs but can't afford that I will go with a refernce card with EKWB on it. 

I might go with 2x STRIXes. 

 

I always went for Founders but that 3x 8 pin and 480W max power usage or so is tempting. Power target is also probably lifted higher too.

[For Science!]

13 minutes ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Kingpin might be over £2k, so that's what I mean by not worth it. Something along the lines of £1500 would be though.

 

Because two of these would be £4k and 2x Strixes for e.g. £1500 totalling £3000 is £1000 off which is worth it more than the KPNs.

 

 

and getting SLI by spending 1500-2000 GBP extra just so to beat the benchmark of single GPU users by entering into a different weight category is also worth it? Then I would have thought spending 1000 GBP extra to actually have a chance of beating SLI3090 users would have been worth it too.
 

it probably makes more sense to get one KP card and just compete in the benchmarking scene that actually has any relevance. Then you can actually show some skill as an over locker instead of just throwing more GPUs at the “problem”

 

As soon as you start talking about “being worth it” you’ve automatically become a value-orientated person and then must address the elephant in the room of how a 3090 is worth it over a 3080 even without thinking about SLI. Also, whether the CPU can even keep a SLI 3090 fed well enough is questionable, especially for older games. 

[For Science!]

And the second elephant waving its trunk in the room of course is that old games that support SLI are limited to 20-series and below.

https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5082

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Existing SLI driver profiles will continue to be tested and maintained for SLI-ready RTX 20 Series and earlier GPUs.

 

For GeForce RTX 3090 and future SLI-capable GPUs, SLI will only be supported when implemented natively within the game.

 

What DirectX 12 games support SLI natively within the game?

 

DirectX 12 titles include Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Civilization VI, Sniper Elite 4, Gears of War 4, Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation, Strange Brigade, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Zombie Army 4: Dead War, Hitman, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Battlefield 1, and Halo Wars 2.

 

What Vulkan games support SLI natively within the game?

 

Vulkan titles include Red Dead Redemption 2, Quake 2 RTX, Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation, Strange Brigade, and Zombie Army 4: Dead War

So the RTX 3090 will not receive SLI support for older games anyway and only those small games above have SLI natively supported. Going forward I guess even less will be supported and so the whole spiel of "wanting SLI for older games" does not really hold up on the 30-seiries.

[For Science!]

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