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Intel Generational Performance Increase?

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Hello all,

 

I have a question regarding  a cpu upgrade for gaming. I have a i5 8600k overclocked to 5.0GHz and I was thinking of upgrading my 2080 super to a 3080. I wonder what kind of bottleneck I would be looking at if I wanted to upgrade the GPU. From what I understand cpu clock speed is still king for gaming, and so I would assume a 6 

core CPU at 5.0 GHz (no smt) would be faster than  ryzen 3800x at stock speeds regardless of how many cores there are?

 

Thanks in advance!

~Stocey

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12 minutes ago, Stocey said:

Hello all,

 

I have a question regarding  a cpu upgrade for gaming. I have a i5 8600k overclocked to 5.0GHz and I was thinking of upgrading my 2080 super to a 3080. I wonder what kind of bottleneck I would be looking at if I wanted to upgrade the GPU. From what I understand cpu clock speed is still king for gaming, and so I would assume a 6 

core CPU at 5.0 GHz (no smt) would be faster than  ryzen 3800x at stock speeds regardless of how many cores there are?

 

Thanks in advance!

~Stocey

Before it was as simple as this CPU has higher clock speeds so it would perform faster. But ever since around the Core 2 days I believe, IPC (instructions per clock) have really took off and become a major factor. You had like Core 2 CPUs running at 2.0 GHz vastly outperforming a 3.2 GHz top of the line Pentium 4. That's how big of a deal it was.

 

I won't go into the specifics of all of that history stuff, but for your 8600k, no upgrading to a 3080 would not "bottleneck" too much. You'll still see a pretty substantial upgrade over your existing 2080 Super. Now, if you were streaming or screen recording while gaming, then the 8600k might struggle a bit. But outside of that, I'd say there's no point in upgrading to a Ryzen 3800X right now unless you absolutely need to have the best performance you can get today. Like honestly you'll be spending maybe 200-300 bucks just to chase a few extra frames? Not worth it in my opinion. I rather save that money to treat my partner to a good night out (when COVID passes of course) or towards my next platform upgrade.  


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first the thread title is different than the content

 I also have the 8600k and it struggles with modern games and will struggle more with upcoming games since consoles have a lot more cores and we're starting to see more core usage

ryzen is bad for gaming not just for the low clock speed but more importantly for the chiplet design

the 8 core 3800x has two 4 core ccx's that has to interact with each other wich produce latency and that why ryzen is struggling in high fps gaming but ryzen 5 3600 has better performance than 8600k in some games

imho If you're satisfied with the i5 you can keep it until 12th gen or zen 4 (skip the 11gen and zen3)

but if not and depending on the resolution you wanna upgrade when zen 3 releases and compare it with 10th gen intel or if you have a decent z390/z370 get a 9900k

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None really between 6th and 10th gen, just higher frequency capability, better thermals, and more cores.


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