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My friend is trying to ruin his christmas...

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Sorry if this is in the wrong place...

 

My friend has a ~7 year old Gaming PC that, other than a SSD upgrade, has been unchanged. He hasn't had the time or money to make any upgrades in the meantime. Apparently small children cost money? (/s for those who need it to understand sarcasm)

 

This year I convinced his wife, parents, and a friend to help me and each buy a different part to get him a base for a new build (CPU, MOBO, RAM, PSU) for the holidays this year, but now he's telling me that he's finally saving up to get a new build started. He's been asking me for advice about what he should look to buy on black friday/cyber monday. Knowing what's going to happen, but not trying to spoil anything, I've been trying to convince him that he should get a decent GPU for his current build that he can use when he gets the other parts.

 

He's pretty tech savy for the average person(can identify all the pc internals and what they do), but he's not up to date on current hardware, nvidia(or intel) vs amd, pricing, etc. He trusts my opinion when it comes to hardware, but since I've been telling him he needs a new CPU/MOBO for the last few years(I know, right..), he's not entirely sold on the sudden change to get a GPU instead.

 

What semi-bullshit reasons can I use to make my friend believe he just needs a good GPU and nothing else (for the time being) so he doesn't ruin his own christmas?

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You could try telling him there’s a newer generation of parts coming out early next year, not sure how believable that would be for him depending on how much he would actually look into it.

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6 minutes ago, Stewball32 said:

What semi-bullshit reasons can I use to make my friend believe he just needs a good GPU and nothing else (for the time being) so he doesn't ruin his own christmas?

Tell him that the latest Ampere graphics cards allow for performance optimizations through NVIDIA Reflex that allow it to more thoroughly use the power of older and newer CPU's minimizing a bottleneck so his old CPU would work fine.


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AMD CPUs will be revealed next month but availability of suitable motherboards will likely take a while. also wait for AMD to resolve any early issues with their platform that may occur.

 

those aren't even BS reasons, they're pretty legit.


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"new parts are coming out soon" is a good argument, since there's always new stuffs

If new stuffs just launched, "wait for people to use it for a while first, see if there's any issues"


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You could tell him that because of the weirdness of the new recently revealed changes to storage systems a new cpu might not even be needed and buying anything before consoles get taken apart and reviewed is foolhardy.  This is only very narrowly true.  The chances that doing so will reveal that old mobo/cpu combos will work fine for another 5 years approaches zero. It’s not quite zero though.  The thing about no one knowing what is going to be happening with games is on point though.  The standard move has so far been to get more hardware than the consoles are capable of fielding and working it that way so kind of the opposite. It’s kind of a Qanon style rationalization, but like their stuff starts from a place of truth. 


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Tell him that because of COVID-19, computer part prices have gone up. Add to that that there are new computer parts being released in the next few months, it is better to hold on to your money and purchase something after the Christmas season.

 

That isn't even entirely incorrect.


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Tell him that HISTORICALLY its post Christmas, prior to end of Q4 for revenue recognition where prices REALLY tank (increased sales)and to wait until the day after Christmas to look for parts.  That Black Friday prices are historically a joke (not lol) in comparison.


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Personally I would rather buy PC parts myself, I would accept their choice and do something different.

 

You shouldn’t manipulate someone because you are low on present ideas.

 

Alternatively you can just be honest, surprises are overrated and it’s the thought that counts.


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2 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

Personally I would rather buy PC parts myself, I would accept their choice and do something different.

 

You shouldn’t manipulate someone because you are low on present ideas.

^ this, i recently just ranted about how receiving something i dont need is actually not a great experience (yes im ungrateful prick)

 

OP should just bring him to PC shopping, tell him the budget and let him pick the parts

 


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Products I like:

Spoiler

Sony Xperia Z1 / Z2 / 10 ii, Asus Strix 970 / 1070, Samsung SSD, WD HDD, Corsair PSUs (AX, RM, CX(grey)), GeForce GPU, NZXT N450/S340, be quiet! Coolers, G.Skill Trident RAM, Logitech M525, Logitech G440, Razer Deathadder Elite

 

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Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

Spoiler

be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

Companies I hate:

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Nvidia, Intel, Apple, TMT (Thundermatch, a retailer)

 

Personal Blacklisted Companies:

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Acer monitors, Gigabyte, Seagate HDD, Kingston SSD, Razer (except their mouse), XiaoMi Phones

 

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13 hours ago, Stewball32 said:

Sorry if this is in the wrong place...

 

My friend has a ~7 year old Gaming PC that, other than a SSD upgrade, has been unchanged. He hasn't had the time or money to make any upgrades in the meantime. Apparently small children cost money? (/s for those who need it to understand sarcasm)

 

This year I convinced his wife, parents, and a friend to help me and each buy a different part to get him a base for a new build (CPU, MOBO, RAM, PSU) for the holidays this year, but now he's telling me that he's finally saving up to get a new build started. He's been asking me for advice about what he should look to buy on black friday/cyber monday. Knowing what's going to happen, but not trying to spoil anything, I've been trying to convince him that he should get a decent GPU for his current build that he can use when he gets the other parts.

 

He's pretty tech savy for the average person(can identify all the pc internals and what they do), but he's not up to date on current hardware, nvidia(or intel) vs amd, pricing, etc. He trusts my opinion when it comes to hardware, but since I've been telling him he needs a new CPU/MOBO for the last few years(I know, right..), he's not entirely sold on the sudden change to get a GPU instead.

 

What semi-bullshit reasons can I use to make my friend believe he just needs a good GPU and nothing else (for the time being) so he doesn't ruin his own christmas?

I mean don't stop him building a new PC. I never get why people don't have a bit of side change for parts. Why does his wife need to be ''convinced''? I mean whenever I need to convince my gf is to get her involved in what I am doing and vice versa and we rarely are successful in this regard. I.E. Last year we ended up going on different vacation places because we weren't able to convince each other to get to the chosen destination. Dumping our child with family. 

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