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3080 Backordered, time to plan the rest!

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Budget (including currency): ~$1800 CAD (including 12% sales tax and shipping)

Country: Canada

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: CS:GO, Rainbow 6, Tarkov, RTS games, Cyberpunk 2077 (if it ever comes out), Adobe CC (Photoshop and Premiere), all at 1440p 165hz

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Good afternoon everyone. After backordering an EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3, I have $1800 CAD left to complete my dream gaming PC. I've spent quite a bit of time reading reviews, and I've put together a preliminary parts list to be ordered in the coming weeks (or whenever I get the shipping notification for my 3080). No peripherals needed, I already have keyboard/mouse/monitor.

 

Here's what I have so far:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($294.45 @ Amazon Canada) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 4 CPU Cooler  ($99.99 @ Canada Computers) 
Thermal Compound: Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut 1g 1 g Thermal Paste  ($14.15 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($229.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($149.99 @ Memory Express) 
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($169.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($94.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($179.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Case Fan: Corsair LL120 63 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack  ($169.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $1473.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-21 17:56 EDT-0400

 

A couple notes:

  1. Kryonaut isn't for this build, it's to re-paste an old laptop so I can sell it. I thought I would just throw it in this order because it's like $15 bucks. I plan to use the thermal paste included with my cooler.
  2. I know the H510 doesn't have incredible airflow, but it's been my dream case for like 3 years, so I'm willing to bite the bullet.
  3. Fans are pretty.

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated, and feel free to ask any questions. Thanks!


Always remember the 80/80 rule of project management. That is, the first 80% of the project takes 80% of the time, and the last 20% of the project takes the other 80% of the time.

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Just get the 3600, buying the 3600X is literally just paying extra money for the X in the name. You can easily OC the 3600 to 3600X speeds at no extra cost.


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6 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Just get the 3600, buying the 3600X is literally just paying extra money for the X in the name. You can easily OC the 3600 to 3600X speeds at no extra cost.

Really? But by that logic, couldn't I overclock the 3600X past the 3600 (overclocked to 3600X speeds)?


Always remember the 80/80 rule of project management. That is, the first 80% of the project takes 80% of the time, and the last 20% of the project takes the other 80% of the time.

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Ehh sort of(but not really), IMO it's not worth the extra price. The 3600X is just a slightly overclocked 3600 you're essentially just paying for a factory overclock. From my testing they overclock to pretty much the same levels, depends on the silicon lottery of course but even in better cases it's not worth the extra money.


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If you ask for a Mid Tower case recommend, I will 90% of the time recommend the Fractal Design Meshify C or S2.

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4 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

Really? But by that logic, couldn't I overclock the 3600X past the 3600 (overclocked to 3600X speeds)?

no, those chips are almost the same bin, you have to get lucky either way to get one that OCs above avg.

The only difference is the clock you get without OC. Just save some money and get 3600 and maybe spend that on better cooler 

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6 minutes ago, bellabichon said:

Really? But by that logic, couldn't I overclock the 3600X past the 3600 (overclocked to 3600X speeds)?

It's not guaranteed. Both are manufactured as the same chip, it's just that one is binned higher than the other to run 200MHz faster while keeping within the power, thermal, etc specifications AMD has set for the X marked part. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Ehh sort of, but IMO it's not worth the extra price. The 3600X is just a slightly overclocked 3600 you're essentially just paying for a factory overclock. From my testing they overclock to pretty much the same levels, depends on the silicon lottery of course but even in better cases it's not worth the extra money.

2 minutes ago, WereCat said:

no, those chips are almost the same bin, you have to get lucky either way to get one that OCs above avg.

The only difference is the clock you get without OC. Just save some money and get 3600 and maybe spend that on better cooler 

1 minute ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

It's not guaranteed. Both are manufactured as the same chip, it's just that one is binned higher than the other to run 200MHz faster while keeping within the power, thermal, etc specifications AMD has set for the X marked part. 

Alright, that's really good to know. I'll switch out for the 3600 and maybe grab an NH-D15 instead of the Dark Rock. Thanks!

 


Always remember the 80/80 rule of project management. That is, the first 80% of the project takes 80% of the time, and the last 20% of the project takes the other 80% of the time.

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