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Posted · Original PosterOP

so its the age old questions again.

 

so TVs already have : 4k, HDR, 120hz, better brightness and size

 

so since im not gaming competetively i thought wouldnt a TV be a better choice  since big Monitors cost almost the same anyway if not more.

 

any thought? maybe even specific recommendations for models?


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I sometimes use an older 4k tv as a monitor - mainly or stuff like flight simulator. The input lag is significantly higher - 0.1ms or so on my laptop's OLED screen, 3-6ms on IPS panels, but about 20ms on the TV.

 

I don't know how that's changed.


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My thought to think about would be the reaction time. So the delay from when you move your mouse until you see the change on the display.
For PC monitors this delay is like 1 ms. But TVs are usually made to show movies where this delay doesn't matter too much. 


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If it has acceptable input lag for your application and you don't mind the size, I don't think it'd be an issue.


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1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

I sometimes use an older 4k tv as a monitor - mainly or stuff like flight simulator. The input lag is significantly higher - 0.1ms or so on my laptop's OLED screen, 3-6ms on IPS panels, but about 20ms on the TV.

 

I don't know how that's changed.

yeah but lets be real am i really gonna notice that if i only play casually and for sight seeing?


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9 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

yeah but lets be real am i really gonna notice that if i only play casually and for sight seeing?

nope, unless you're sensitive to it

 

but you would probably have to sit a distance away to enjoy it no? i dont enjoy gaming with a monitor this big in front of me, eye and neck strain

 

edit: also, game mode might be a thing on your TV if it's 120hz, lowers latency and post processing


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22 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

so its the age old questions again.

 

so TVs already have : 4k, HDR, 120hz, better brightness and size

 

so since im not gaming competetively i thought wouldnt a TV be a better choice  since big Monitors cost almost the same anyway if not more.

 

any thought? maybe even specific recommendations for models?

newer tvs like from samsung, lg, hell even some hisence, sony, and vizeos has really good low ms for gaming now a days...go to rtings.com to check out their reviews.

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ive been using 4k tvs as my display for 4 years now , works fine so i say go for it

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Modern TVs that offer high refresh rates etc all have low input lag as well.

I've been using TVs as monitors for close to 10 years now.


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I have never liked playing on a TV. Then I watched a LTT video on the 2019 LG OLEDS with VRR and HDMI 2.1. I bought one since I needed a new TV anyway but set it up as a monitor. Now I have even replaced my 38" LG ultra wide with one.

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2 hours ago, suedseefrucht said:

My thought to think about would be the reaction time. So the delay from when you move your mouse until you see the change on the display.
For PC monitors this delay is like 1 ms. But TVs are usually made to show movies where this delay doesn't matter too much. 

well not all monitors are 1ms

2 hours ago, Moonzy said:

nope, unless you're sensitive to it

 

but you would probably have to sit a distance away to enjoy it no? i dont enjoy gaming with a monitor this big in front of me, eye and neck strain

 

edit: also, game mode might be a thing on your TV if it's 120hz, lowers latency and post processing

i dont know i quite like filling my entire view with screen when i game

1 hour ago, circeseye said:

newer tvs like from samsung, lg, hell even some hisence, sony, and vizeos has really good low ms for gaming now a days...go to rtings.com to check out their reviews.

yeah i already  did but sadly most of the better tv only come in a 55" version or the smaller version doesnt have 120hz native or something. finding good smaller tvs is quite hard

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

I have never liked playing on a TV. Then I watched a LTT video on the 2019 LG OLEDS with VRR and HDMI 2.1. I bought one since I needed a new TV anyway but set it up as a monitor. Now I have even replaced my 38" LG ultra wide with one.

I think it is the way to go.

 

yeah oled is the only thing im not comfortable with having as a monitor just for the burn in


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1 minute ago, cluelessgenius said:

i dont know i quite like filling my entire view with screen when i game

VR?

 

but it sounds like you're pretty set on a TV, nothing majorly wrong with that, as long as you can justify it, go ahead


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3 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

VR?

 

but it sounds like you're pretty set on a TV, nothing majorly wrong with that, as long as you can justify it, go ahead

well the problem is finding something with flagship quality but below 50" usually the smaller one are also lower spec


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3 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

well the problem is finding something with flagship quality but below 50" usually the smaller one are also lower spec

afaik, BFGD are around 40-42inch size

 

think LG had some 80 inch OLED panels with 120Hz and g-sync? -finds-

cost a liver though

 

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17 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

afaik, BFGD are around 40-42inch size
 

yeah but they are more expensive than 55"ers


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Just now, cluelessgenius said:

yeah but they are more expensive than 55"ers

ye 4K 120Hz isnt cheap, good ones at least

same thing for monitors.


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1 minute ago, Moonzy said:

ye 4K 120Hz isnt cheap, good ones at least

same thing for monitors.

well i got my 55" sony x900e for 600 :D


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7 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

well i got my 55" sony x900e for 600 :D

so you own a 4k 120 TV already?


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2 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

so you own a 4k 120 TV already?

yeah but its in my living room and also too big


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3 minutes ago, cluelessgenius said:

yeah but its in my living room and also too big

just give it a go

and sit further dum dum


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Just now, Moonzy said:

just give it a go

and sit further dum dum

no i definitly want a seperate one on the desk as a monitor not sit on my couch with my keyboard ... dum dum


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Just now, cluelessgenius said:

no i definitly want a seperate one on the desk as a monitor not sit on my couch with my keyboard ... dum dum

to test it out lol

see if you like gaming on a big TV, before buying a 2nd one


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4 hours ago, cluelessgenius said:

so its the age old questions again.

 

so TVs already have : 4k, HDR, 120hz, better brightness and size

 

so since im not gaming competetively i thought wouldnt a TV be a better choice  since big Monitors cost almost the same anyway if not more.

 

any thought? maybe even specific recommendations for models?

Im still rocking a 1080p Plasma ..so ..yea.

 

if u go TV the biggest advantage is that u can choose an OLED, the smallest beign the LG CX 48".

 

Ofc i ur in a bright room u may want to go with a LCD, one with a high sustained brightness like one of the 1000nit QLEDs, but ull loose the Pixel response time (as ull be running VA) and those inky blacks that OLEDs produce.


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2 hours ago, cluelessgenius said:

yeah oled is the only thing im not comfortable with having as a monitor just for the burn in

I will post if it ever becomes an issue but I am 10 months in and no issues so far. 

The TV also has lots of nannys to prevent it and there is also just using a screen saver.

 

I don't expect it to last as long as an LCD panel but If I get 3 years out of them I will be happy.  


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16 hours ago, cluelessgenius said:

so its the age old questions again.

 

so TVs already have : 4k, HDR, 120hz, better brightness and size

 

so since im not gaming competetively i thought wouldnt a TV be a better choice  since big Monitors cost almost the same anyway if not more.

 

any thought? maybe even specific recommendations for models?

I heard gaming on TVs can make you feel sick quite quickly 

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