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[Opinions] What are worst kind on fallacies used by people on Social Media sites?

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I want to know what are your opinions about people tweeting like they know what they are saying online but in reality, they're baseless claims and all speculations.

 

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Ad hominem.  As far as I can tell, that's pretty much all Twitter is good for nowadays: slinging mud at people for saying things.  

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22 minutes ago, Rybo said:

Ad hominem.  As far as I can tell, that's pretty much all Twitter is good for nowadays: slinging mud at people for saying things.  

That is pretty common yet annoying too.

What about SJWs’ secret weapon, the Kafka Trap? 

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Just now, 5GigaaHertz said:

That is pretty common yet annoying too.

What about SJWs’ secret weapon, the Kafka Trap? 

Ugh.  

To be fair to the SJWs, their general ideology is that everybody is guilty of everything from a social perspective, so I don't know that they're necessarily using the Kafka Trap; they just have a very bleak view of human nature.  

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32 minutes ago, Rybo said:

Ugh.  

To be fair to the SJWs, their general ideology is that everybody is guilty of everything from a social perspective, so I don't know that they're necessarily using the Kafka Trap; they just have a very bleak view of human nature.  

Fair enough

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Confusing correlation with causation has got to be up there, along with post hoc, ergo propter hoc.

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15 hours ago, Caroline said:

except for them because they're perfect in this fantasy of theirs.

Surprisingly, not really.  There's a New York Times best selling book out about how everyone is guilty (including the author) and how to acknowledge it.  Colleges and corporations regularly profess their complicity in these issues.  

They legitimately think it's everywhere.  

Granted, I don't know how well that translates to every social issue at hand, but for the slice of social issues I'm most aware of, the only way they think they're "better" is their awareness of their own moral failings and that they're working to change things.

Also: re: our likely violation of community standards...

 

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A does X

B does X too!

 

Therefore, X is okay/moral/good and/or the discussion is over.

 

I don't know if this has a name but I mean the tendency to think that pointing out hypocrisy makes the discussion of an action no longer relevant. This is pretty much every political discussion I see. 

 

 

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I started fact checking all the instagram stories people are posting and it's sorta scary how many are wrong

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7 minutes ago, Kylan275 said:

A does X

B does X too!

 

Therefore, X is okay/moral/good and/or the discussion is over.

 

I don't know if this has a name but I mean the tendency to think that pointing out hypocrisy makes the discussion of an action no longer relevant. This is pretty much every political discussion I see. 

 

Political and not political. It's ll rooted in the tribal mentality: A (from my tribe) does x? B (from your tribe) does X too! And that's all that matters because we weren't really discussing X, it was an Tribe A vs. tribe B flame war all along...

 

 

Also, you dislike fallacies? You know who else disliked fallacies? That's right, Hitler, that's who!

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I donˋt use or follow social media but it seems like people are looking to find the perceived smallest mistake and try to start a shitstorm in order to get attention

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It's social media soooo any of them...it's like throwing a dart at a board with all of them listed, you're going to hit one of them with every throw.

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Thinking their opinion matters

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All fallacies are the worst kind, because they're illogical.

My most despised are appeal to emotion, or strawman. But they all exist on social media and everyone who uses one bothers me.

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1 hour ago, Teddy07 said:

I donˋt use or follow social media but it seems like people are looking to find the perceived smallest mistake and try to start a shitstorm in order to get attention

yeah, like finding the bad apples in a community and then calling the entire community that the bad apples are part of a "-ist"

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3 hours ago, divito said:

My most despised are appeal to emotion, or strawman. But they all exist on social media and everyone who uses one bothers me.

Or have you just made a strawman by strawmanning the strawmanners?!?!

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Worst people to argue with are those with an ideology be it the SJWs, Black lines matter, AntiFa, Religious people or the Alt right. They all believe BS that benefits them and stick their fingers in their ears when you show them why their “evidence” is a crock of shit. 

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I dont use social media. Everyone thinks his/hers fucking opinion is the only real truth.

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33 minutes ago, DutchGuyTom said:

The biggest issue with discourse on social media is not that people use fallacies but its that most users are not willing to genuinely engage with opposing viewpoints. This discussion on fallacies troubles me because it reminds me that the approach so often taken online starts with "what are the demerits and fallacies of their arguments?" and never considers "what are the merits of their arguments?" 

 

I think both sides of the table, so to speak, are guilty of this, just as we're all guilty of using fallacies. Case in point, I've never seen the label "SJW" be applied unless it was to belittle someone and discount their position. 

I can see that as people are not always at the same page or they avoid argument that won't favor them. 

37 minutes ago, DutchGuyTom said:

and never considers "what are the merits of their arguments?"

tbh, I never thought of this. I think it is easier to spot mistakes than what is correct.

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21 hours ago, Rybo said:

Kafka Trap

kafka?

Anything i've written between the * and * is not meant to be taken seriously.

keep in mind that helping with problems is hard if you aren't specific and detailed.

i'm also not a professional, (yet) so make sure to personally verify important information as i could be wrong.

 

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2 hours ago, flashiling said:

kafka?

the fallacy about denying = guilty like if you deny their statement, it means you are the one they are talking about or you guilty of their statement(i wish this will make sense since i did not google it)

but if you are asking about why it is called kafka, idk bro

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1 minute ago, 5GigaaHertz said:

the fallacy about denying = guilty like if you deny their statement, it means you are the one they are talking about or you guilty of their statement(i wish this will make sense since i did not google it)

but if you are asking about why it is called kafka, idk bro

no it was what kafka meant.

so basically if i say AMD Bad and you say, "well amd isn't all bad because ****** " and i then start calling you out for  being an amd fanboy,

that's kafka

Anything i've written between the * and * is not meant to be taken seriously.

keep in mind that helping with problems is hard if you aren't specific and detailed.

i'm also not a professional, (yet) so make sure to personally verify important information as i could be wrong.

 

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