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Why is the Thermaltake V200 Airflow bad?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hey everyone, I have a Thermaltake V200 Case and I see slightly high temps probably due to airflow. On heavy games and benchmarks my CPU and GPU both stay at a maximum of 75 degrees (Asus Strix 2080 Super and Ryzen 5 3600 with a Snowman M-T6 cooler). There is a grill at the side of the front panel and a open space at the very bottom of the front panel to take in some air which looks to me like its sufficient enough. So I don’t believe the high temps are due to a semi-blocked front panel. What else could it be or is it basically just the front panel? Any ideas? And can I improve airflow? Thanks.

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Remove front panel and test thermals, this will tell you how much the front panel is hurting your cooling


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The case is basically like trying to breathe through a pillow. It kinda works but it's very hard. The front panel is a wall with some small holes on the side for airflow. Remove it and watch the air go and temps drop.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, jaslion said:

The case is basically like trying to breathe through a pillow. It kinda works but it's very hard. The front panel is a wall with some small holes on the side for airflow. Remove it and watch the air go and temps drop.

I can’t remove it. Because its very firm and I am scared that it will break when removing it

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16 minutes ago, redcan0 said:

I can’t remove it. Because its very firm and I am scared that it will break when removing it

It is held on by clips on the side right? Pull a bit and pinch the clips loose one by one on one side and then it will pop straight off.

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The tiny cutout on the bottom of the case, and the intake slots on one side of the front panel are in line or behind the fans, which means that the front fans are effectively drawing no fresh air.

 

If the PSU shroud and bottom of the case wasn't completely solid, you would almost be better off by ignoring the front fan mounts and used the bottom and top as intake and exhaust.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
59 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

Remove front panel and test thermals, this will tell you how much the front panel is hurting your cooling

Do you think I should buy a new case when you look at my temps?

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1 minute ago, redcan0 said:

Do you think I should buy a new case when you look at my temps?

Well what is your fan configuration. If you don't have any case fans to help air flow through the case, of course it's going to be a bit of an oven. Especially with a glass front panel, you need fans to help draw air into the case. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

Well what is your fan configuration. If you don't have any case fans to help air flow through the case, of course it's going to be a bit of an oven. Especially with a glass front panel, you need fans to help draw air into the case. 

3 at the front 1 at the very back as exhaust and no fans on the top of the case

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1 minute ago, redcan0 said:

3 at the front 1 at the very back as exhaust and no fans on top

What sort of fan profile are you using?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

What sort of fan profile are you using?

Default. I didn’t touch any fan settings and don’t know how to its probably from bios though.

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1 minute ago, redcan0 said:

Default. I didn’t touch any fan settings and don’t know how to its probably from bios though.

I guess the easiest way to test is, if you take the side panel off and put your in behind the fans, do you feel a breeze? If you barely feel anything, then you might want go into the BIOS and maybe increase the fan speed of those Chassis fans. Do the same thing with the rear exhaust.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

I guess the easiest way to test is, if you take the side panel off and put your in behind the fans, do you feel a breeze? If you barely feel anything, then you might want go into the BIOS and maybe increase the fan speed of those Chassis fans. Do the same thing with the rear exhaust.

As far as I know If I remove the side panel and put a paper at the rear of the front 3 fans the paper should stick to the fans I mean the fans should pull the paper. If the paper doesn’t stick then the airflow is poor. Is this method correct?

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2 minutes ago, redcan0 said:

As far as I know If I remove the side panel and put a paper at the rear of the front 3 fans the paper should stick to the fans I mean the fans should pull the paper. If the paper doesn’t stick then the airflow is poor. Is this method correct?

So if you place a piece of paper behind the fans from inside of the case, ideally you would want the piece of paper to be blown away as shown by the lovely diagram below. That way you know fresh air is being drawn into the case. If the piece of paper is being sucked into the fans, then the front fans are pulling the air out from inside of the case. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, BlueChinchillaEatingDorito said:

So if you place a piece of paper behind the fans from inside of the case, ideally you would want the piece of paper to be blown away as shown by the lovely diagram below. That way you know fresh air is being drawn into the case. If the piece of paper is being sucked into the fans, then the front fans are pulling the air out from inside of the case. 

image.png.04695428ea0d99aacdf37bd093034d23.png

So I could either use my hand to test the airflow or see if the piece of paper is blown away right? Thank you so much btw

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fans moving air and fans moving fresh air don't always coincide.

If removing the front panel is not an option removing the side panel would be the next best thing.


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