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Is ryzen 7 2700x worth it in 2020?

Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

I have a standard 2060 paired with a 2700X 4K HTPC gamer rig. I'd love to have a 2070s ! :)

I'd love to have a 4K television! I am still stuck with a 1080p

 

2 minutes ago, Squid1411 said:

i rly think its a typo cause even the 2060 super is more expensive than that idk why

Well if that's true, I would jump on it. That sounds like a great deal

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Is it worth it to buy a ryzen 7 2700x in 2020. Or should i go with the ryzen 5 3600. I want to use the radeon rx 5600 xt or the nvidia rtx 2060. And will it be a bottleneck. Sry for bad eng.

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Unless the 2700x is very cheap, like $130. I'd buy the 3600 for $170 instead. Or wait for the up coming 4000 series in a month.

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2 minutes ago, Squid1411 said:

well in my country the 2700x is 226$ but the 3600 is 272$ and do you know how much will the 4000 cost

 

Likely the 2700x and 3600 are selling below their MSRP now in your country. When the 4000 series launches, those CPUs will stay at MSRP for the first few months. So they will likely be more expensive that the 3600 and 2700X. But of course, it's just my speculation.

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Yes it's still worth it. You can just overclock it to match the 3600 clock.

If you wanna buy 3600 better to wait for 4000, as the price will be drop.

4000 will cost about the same if not slightly higher than the chip it replaces.

So a 4600 will cost around the same price as when 3600 was launched.

At worst it would be priced around the same price as 10600k.

And just like the 2600 was slashed 20% (if not more) when 3600 released, this will happen again.


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2 minutes ago, Squid1411 said:

well in my country the 2700x is 226$ but the 3600 is 272$ and do you know how much will the 4000 cost

 

We don't know enough about the next-gen Ryzen CPUs because they've not been released yet outside of their use by OEMs. Chances are the current generation (3000-series) and last generation (2000-series) will drop in price when the new Ryzen CPUs become available to the public. Until then, we con only speculate that they will have a Ryzen 5 4600 processor at the same MSRP as the current R5 3600. As Deli mentioned, the 3600 and 2700X is probably being sold for under their MSRP but we don't know that and it is a bit of a crapshoot altogether due to COVID-19. 

 

The 2700X will be worth it if you value the two extra cores but, if you're solely interested in gaming, my understanding is that the 3600 is better. 


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19 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Yes it's still worth it. You can just overclock it to match the 3600 clock.

No. A 2700X is slower than a 3600 clock-for-clock, you'd need a very noticeable clock lead to actually match/beat the newer chip. Zen 2 has a very large IPC leap over Zen+. When locked to 3.5Ghz the 3600 beats out the 2700X:

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Crushes it when going stock-for-stock in CB20 as well:

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15% faster single core, only 10% lower multicore while having 2c/4t less to work with than the 2700X. 

Unless you mostly do workloads that use all 16 threads to 100%, the 2700X is going to be slower in every application than the 3600. 


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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

No. A 2700X is slower than a 3600 clock-for-clock, you'd need a very noticeable clock lead to actually match/beat the newer chip. Zen 2 has a very large IPC leap over Zen+. When locked to 3.5Ghz the 3600 beats out the 2700X:

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Crushes it when going stock-for-stock in CB20 as well:

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15% faster single core, only 10% lower multicore while having 2c/4t less to work with than the 2700X. 

Unless you mostly do workloads that use all 16 threads to 100%, the 2700X is going to be slower in every application than the 3600. 

ok but whats better for streaming and what gpu should i use 

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24 minutes ago, Squid1411 said:

and is the graphics card good is it better to get the 5600xt or the rtx 2060

Both are good options but the RTX 2060 has NVenc which is good for streaming. The 5600 xt is very slightly better in performance than the 2060 but the 2060 offers more stability (although by now I imagine AMD has ironed out any instability issues with the 5600 xt). 

 

You really can't go wrong with either option but I would chose between the following pairings:

 

a.) The 3600 with the 2060. This pairing offers a theoretically better gaming experience. The big sell for me, however, would be the NVenc and DLSS features of the 2060. You probably won't be able to use ray tracing though since the 2060 isn't good enough for that.

 

b.) The 2700x with the 5600 xt. The extra cores will help with streaming (although most games will only use 4 out of 8). This combination is likely cheaper and will offer close to the same performance and experience.

 

I would check out Hardware Unboxed's video on the two graphics cards though and pay attention to what games each card is better at. I also recommend you do your own research and sometimes typing "X v Y" in google is all you need to do to narrow down your options (but please avoid UseBenchmark).

 

Finally, a word of caution about buyer's remorse. Building a computer now runs the risk of spending too much on components that, while technically "current gen" now, will become "old news" by the end of the year. You may look back in January and find you've overspent on the processor and graphics card and will then have better options within your price bracket. It (likely) won't be as bad as those who paid $1200 on an RTX 2080 Ti recently only to find that it is now beat by a $700 card but it could be a similar situation. 


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Just now, Squid1411 said:

ok but whats better for streaming and what gpu should i use 

If you're only streaming, get the 2060 and use the onboard NVENC encoder (it's lower quality than CPU encoding still, but not noticeable with the compression necessary for streams). 

 


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i mean this pc i want to be like an all in one i want to do some game development in unreal engine and cause im solo that prob goes with animations and shit 3d rendering and that stuff so whats better then. but in this mid range price range does intel have something worth looking in to

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you are prob like smh this kid want a rtx 3090 or smth for 300 bucks but i rly need help with this this will be my first pc build

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3600 is the better CPU, and even in multicore it's only 10% or so slower while having 30% less cores than the 2700X. Far superior gaming CPU, barely slower in 100% multithreaded tasks. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP

so 3600 is better ok and for my usage what gpu cause u said the 2060 is good if im only streaming whats better for game development and 3d stuff

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2 minutes ago, Squid1411 said:

i mean this pc i want to be like an all in one i want to do some game development in unreal engine and cause im solo that prob goes with animations and shit 3d rendering and that stuff so whats better then. but in this mid range price range does intel have something worth looking in to

I personally don't know enough about game development but I would say that the 3600 is better in gaming but worse in productivity tasks (although not by much). The question is whether it is worth the $50. That will be up to you but in my opinion you won't be making a bad choice going with one over the other.

1 minute ago, Squid1411 said:

you are prob like smh this kid want a rtx 3090 or smth for 300 bucks but i rly need help with this this will be my first pc build

No lol not at all! I am just warning you that new stuff is coming out. You're clearly aware of your budget and therefore looking into reasonable options. The stuff you're looking at is all good components, most people can't even afford to spend money on building a computer. 

1 minute ago, Squid1411 said:

so 3600 is better ok and for my usage what gpu cause u said the 2060 is good if im only streaming whats better for game development and 3d stuff

Personally, I have no clue, but I imagine both cards perform about the same for game development as they do for actually running games so it will also be a toss up. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP

ok ty btw here is my final build and if u have any things i should change plz tell meee

 

ASUS AMD Radeon RX 5600 XT EVO

AMD Ryzen 5 3600

MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX

KINGSTON DIMM DDR4 8GB 3200MHz x2 so its 16gb

TOSHIBA 1TB 3.5'' SATA III

MS IRON

 

KINGSTON SSD M.2 120GB SA400M8/120G

and i need a power supply but idk what to get

 
 
 
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21 minutes ago, Squid1411 said:

and i also wanna game too

 

Your budget should be wrapped around the Gpu FIRST.

 

So if getting a 2700x allows the budget for a 2060(s) or a standard 2070, you want to go that route especially on high resolution gaming.

 

10% FPS difference over 100fps is 10 lousy frames per second..... (just saying.... it's not "far superior" *sry Zando)

 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

Your budget should be wrapped around the Gpu FIRST.

 

So if getting a 2700x allows the budget for a 2060(s) or a standard 2070, you want to go that route especially on high resolution gaming.

 

10% FPS difference over 100fps is 10 lousy frames per second..... (just saying.... it's not "far superior" *sry Zando)

 

let me check if that would fit my budget

 

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1 minute ago, Squid1411 said:

let me check if that would fit my budget

 

Also check for the 5700 xt since that is one of the best cost to performance graphics card options out there.


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3 minutes ago, Squid1411 said:

let me check if that would fit my budget

 

Go here, build a rig or two or three....

 

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