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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi,

 

as title states will this be good gaming. I will have it 1080p until January then il buy 1440p 144.

 

If not is there a good processor using the same chip so I don't have to change mobo as its brand new.

 

thanks


PC SPECS

 

I7-8700 (non K)

 

GTX 1070

 

Corsair H100x AIO

 

16GB DDR4 Crucial ram (2133mhz)

 

Prime Z370-A Motherboard

 

Gamemax Falcon (White)

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Logitech G305

 

Corsair Strafe MX RED

 

Blue Yeti /w arm

 

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1 minute ago, xReqt said:

so I don't have to change mobo as its brand new.

the 8700k is the best cpu you can get on that platform so even if it were bad (it isn't) you wouldn't really have a choice


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-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

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A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

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From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

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A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

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Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

@Sauron So do you think It could pair together nicely (nothing overclocked)

 

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3070

32GB ddr4 @3000

i7-8700 turbo to 4.2

650w bronze corsair psu

 


PC SPECS

 

I7-8700 (non K)

 

GTX 1070

 

Corsair H100x AIO

 

16GB DDR4 Crucial ram (2133mhz)

 

Prime Z370-A Motherboard

 

Gamemax Falcon (White)

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Logitech G305

 

Corsair Strafe MX RED

 

Blue Yeti /w arm

 

JVC (Headphones)

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11 minutes ago, Sauron said:

the 8700k is the best cpu you can get on that platform so even if it were bad (it isn't) you wouldn't really have a choice

Jayz found that the 2080ti numbers were like 20% higher than his launch day tests that were on that chip.

OP; there will be a cpu bottle neck, but not a big one. In general, you will always have a bottleneck, just the size will depend on what you chose to do. Also, the bottleneck scan be changed depending on the use case. a more cpu bound game will limit how well your gpu can do.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

@HelpfulTechWizard So I will be good on 1080p until I get a 1440p and it'll reduce the bottleneck?


PC SPECS

 

I7-8700 (non K)

 

GTX 1070

 

Corsair H100x AIO

 

16GB DDR4 Crucial ram (2133mhz)

 

Prime Z370-A Motherboard

 

Gamemax Falcon (White)

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Logitech G305

 

Corsair Strafe MX RED

 

Blue Yeti /w arm

 

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13 minutes ago, xReqt said:

@HelpfulTechWizard So I will be good on 1080p until I get a 1440p and it'll reduce the bottleneck?

prob.


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My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

My new PC I'm saving for:

  • NZXT H1 Matte Black
    • Comes with a 650W NZXT PSU
    • NZXT AIO
  • Ryzen 5 3600
  • MSI B450i GAMING PLUS AC
  • XPG ADATA 2800Mhz
  • RX480 untill I have more for a 2060 or 2070
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36 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

Jayz found that the 2080ti numbers were like 20% higher than his launch day tests that were on that chip.

OP; there will be a cpu bottle neck, but not a big one. In general, you will always have a bottleneck, just the size will depend on what you chose to do. Also, the bottleneck scan be changed depending on the use case. a more cpu bound game will limit how well your gpu can do.

He also said that there's generally performance uplift as time goes by

 

blamed it all on the 8700k, despite being only one of two variables

 

and failed to test that variable today

 

Given GN's review of the 10600k being more or less even with the 10900k when overclocked to the same frequency, i'm going to go with he's wrong*

 

 

 

 

*unless security mitigations alone are causing it, or unless the original 2080ti review he did was on a stock 8700k


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58 minutes ago, xReqt said:

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if i had to put a number on it, it'd be about a 20% bottleneck on a 1080p/144hz monitor and 10%~ on 1440p


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9 hours ago, xReqt said:

o you think It could pair together nicely (nothing overclocked)

Yes. But again, without a new motherboard you don't really have a choice anyway.


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Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

@Sauron Yeah true I plan on selling my 2070 super so il use that money to get started on a new mobo and processor (R5 3600 should do it fine)


PC SPECS

 

I7-8700 (non K)

 

GTX 1070

 

Corsair H100x AIO

 

16GB DDR4 Crucial ram (2133mhz)

 

Prime Z370-A Motherboard

 

Gamemax Falcon (White)

----------------------------------------------------------

Peripherals

 

Logitech G305

 

Corsair Strafe MX RED

 

Blue Yeti /w arm

 

JVC (Headphones)

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1 hour ago, xReqt said:

R5 3600 should do it fine

The 8700 is faster than the 3600 so don't waste your money. We all told you your cpus is just fine.


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Sauron'stm Product Scores:

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Just a list of my personal scores for some products, in no particular order, with brief comments. I just got the idea to do them so they aren't many for now :)

Don't take these as complete reviews or final truths - they are just my personal impressions on products I may or may not have used, summed up in a couple of sentences and a rough score. All scores take into account the unit's price and time of release, heavily so, therefore don't expect absolute performance to be reflected here.

 

-Lenovo Thinkpad X220 - [8/10]

Spoiler

A durable and reliable machine that is relatively lightweight, has all the hardware it needs to never feel sluggish and has a great IPS matte screen. Downsides are mostly due to its age, most notably the screen resolution of 1366x768 and usb 2.0 ports.

 

-Apple Macbook (2015) - [Garbage -/10]

Spoiler

From my perspective, this product has no redeeming factors given its price and the competition. It is underpowered, overpriced, impractical due to its single port and is made redundant even by Apple's own iPad pro line.

 

-OnePlus X - [7/10]

Spoiler

A good phone for the price. It does everything I (and most people) need without being sluggish and has no particularly bad flaws. The lack of recent software updates and relatively barebones feature kit (most notably the lack of 5GHz wifi, biometric sensors and backlight for the capacitive buttons) prevent it from being exceptional.

 

-Microsoft Surface Book 2 - [Garbage - -/10]

Spoiler

Overpriced and rushed, offers nothing notable compared to the competition, doesn't come with an adequate charger despite the premium price. Worse than the Macbook for not even offering the small plus sides of having macOS. Buy a Razer Blade if you want high performance in a (relatively) light package.

 

-Intel Core i7 2600/k - [9/10]

Spoiler

Quite possibly Intel's best product launch ever. It had all the bleeding edge features of the time, it came with a very significant performance improvement over its predecessor and it had a soldered heatspreader, allowing for efficient cooling and great overclocking. Even the "locked" version could be overclocked through the multiplier within (quite reasonable) limits.

 

-Apple iPad Pro - [5/10]

Spoiler

A pretty good product, sunk by its price (plus the extra cost of the physical keyboard and the pencil). Buy it if you don't mind the Apple tax and are looking for a very light office machine with an excellent digitizer. Particularly good for rich students. Bad for cheap tinkerers like myself.

 

 

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Note the 8700 non-k only runs at 4.3ghz, so if you are looking at performance numbers, generally it will be exactly the same as a stock 8700k.

 

So look here at the stock 8700k data

 

 


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Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Vega 64 // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

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Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // ASUS RX 570 4GB OC // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 16GB T-Force Vulkan 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p - Logitech Keyboard and Mouse

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

@Sauron I was under the impression 20% bottleneck isn't ok. anyhow thanks to all.


PC SPECS

 

I7-8700 (non K)

 

GTX 1070

 

Corsair H100x AIO

 

16GB DDR4 Crucial ram (2133mhz)

 

Prime Z370-A Motherboard

 

Gamemax Falcon (White)

----------------------------------------------------------

Peripherals

 

Logitech G305

 

Corsair Strafe MX RED

 

Blue Yeti /w arm

 

JVC (Headphones)

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12 minutes ago, xReqt said:

@Sauron I was under the impression 20% bottleneck isn't ok. anyhow thanks to all.

idk where the hell this keeps going around, is it just jayztwocents offhand remark with no evidence?

 

because I just posted data that shows there isn't a 20% bottleneck with the 2080ti, even on a stock 8700k(or nonk)

 

The question isn't "Is the 8700 enough", it's "is 6/12 enough", and that applies to every CPU.

 


My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT RAW II // Corsair 275R Airflow // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/512GB Silicon Power A55/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD/2TB Seagate Barracuda // Displays: AOC AGON AG241QX/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Razer Black Widow TE Chroma - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Vega 64 // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz All-core @1.39v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // ASUS RX 570 4GB OC // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 16GB T-Force Vulkan 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p - Logitech Keyboard and Mouse

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

@Mister Woof Alright cheers bud. I didn't watch the youtube video as of yet as I am quite busy planning builds/upgrades. I plan on getting the 3070 and calling it at that leaving it for least 3 years I assume for 2 years it shouldn't have issues running the 144fps I need. Then I think nvidia's new cards will come out during the 3rd year in which il sell my build and purchase a new. Once again thanks.


PC SPECS

 

I7-8700 (non K)

 

GTX 1070

 

Corsair H100x AIO

 

16GB DDR4 Crucial ram (2133mhz)

 

Prime Z370-A Motherboard

 

Gamemax Falcon (White)

----------------------------------------------------------

Peripherals

 

Logitech G305

 

Corsair Strafe MX RED

 

Blue Yeti /w arm

 

JVC (Headphones)

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1 minute ago, xReqt said:

@Mister Woof Alright cheers bud. I didn't watch the youtube video as of yet as I am quite busy planning builds/upgrades. I plan on getting the 3070 and calling it at that leaving it for least 3 years I assume for 2 years it shouldn't have issues running the 144fps I need. Then I think nvidia's new cards will come out during the 3rd year in which il sell my build and purchase a new. Once again thanks.

if 3070 == 2080 ti, then you should see similar results as shown in the video.


My System: i7-8700k 5.0ghz All-core delidded @1.375v // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5 // 32GB (4x8) Corsair Vengeance DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT RAW II // Corsair 275R Airflow // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // Intel 660P 1TB NVME M.2 SSD/1TB Samsung 860 EVO/512GB Silicon Power A55/1TB 2.5" HGST HDD/2TB Seagate Barracuda // Displays: AOC AGON AG241QX/Lenovo L24Q-30/Lenovo L24Q-30 // Razer Black Widow TE Chroma - Logitech G502 // Corsair H70 Gaming Headset

 

Wife's System: i7-8700 // Arctic Freezer 33 // Gigabyte Z390M Gaming // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // Sapphire Vega 64 // NZXT S340 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w // 1TB Samsung 860 EVO/4TB Western Digital HDD // Displays: ASUS VG248QE/ASUS VG245H/ASUS VP248Q // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G602 // LG BDRW // NexStar 5.25" USB 3 Enclosure

 

TV Gamer: Ryzen 5 1600 3.9ghz All-core @1.39v // Wraith PRISM // Gigabyte B450 Aorus M // 16GB (2x8) Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200 // XFX Radeon RX 580 8GB XXX Edition // Thermaltake Versa H17 // Corsair Vengeance Silver 650W // 120GB Sandisk SSD/120GB PNY CS900/4TB Western Digital Blue // Display: 50" Westinghouse 1080p // Rii Wireless Mini Keyboard w/Touchpad/Xbox One Controllers

 

Son's System: i5-9400 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB GeIL Potenza DDR 3200 // ASUS RX 570 4GB OC // NZXT S340 Black // Seasonic S12II 620w Bronze // 525GB Crucial MX300/500GB Wester Digital Blue // Display: Dell P2417H - Eagletech KG010 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

 

Daughter's System: i3-8350k // Cooler Master i71c // MSI H310M Pro VDH-Plus // 16GB T-Force Vulkan 2666 (2400) // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB Mini // DarkFlash Micro ATX White // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD // Display: Scepter 20" 1080p - Logitech Keyboard and Mouse

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

@Mister Woof Alright cool :)


PC SPECS

 

I7-8700 (non K)

 

GTX 1070

 

Corsair H100x AIO

 

16GB DDR4 Crucial ram (2133mhz)

 

Prime Z370-A Motherboard

 

Gamemax Falcon (White)

----------------------------------------------------------

Peripherals

 

Logitech G305

 

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If you didnt already buy it I would go with the K version unless theres a huge price difference. The K has a higher base and boost clock speed in addition to whatever you OC, and clock speed matters in gaming for Intel processors.


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2 minutes ago, maizenblue said:

If you didnt already buy it I would go with the K version unless theres a huge price difference. The K has a higher base and boost clock speed in addition to whatever you OC, and clock speed matters in gaming for Intel processors.

They're run at exactly the same frequency at stock values - only get the K if you plan to OC (which you should).


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I have a i7 8700 too and upgraded the monitor to 1440p144Hz as well. Hopefully my RTX3080 will arrive soon.

I made some research, and the 8700 is still very competent. Six cores/twelve threads are good, not many games take advantage of eight core/sixteen thread. Frequencies are still good too if not stellar. Overall it's a good gaming CPU imo.

 

Bottleneck will depend on the games you play. I expect to become slightly CPU bound in cyberpunk 2077, but I can live with that. Total War Warhammer is CPU intensive, so CPU bottleneck there for sure. Third person shooters tend to be more GPU heavy, but I don't play many of them.

 

For a 3070, I would just keep that CPU. You can make sure you have your DDR XMP profile enabled in the bios to make sure you are getting the full performance if you have more than 2400 of DDR speed.


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46 minutes ago, 05032-Mendicant-Bias said:

I have a i7 8700 too and upgraded the monitor to 1440p144Hz as well. Hopefully my RTX3080 will arrive soon.

I made some research, and the 8700 is still very competent. Six cores/twelve threads are good, not many games take advantage of eight core/sixteen thread. Frequencies are still good too if not stellar. Overall it's a good gaming CPU imo.

 

Bottleneck will depend on the games you play. I expect to become slightly CPU bound in cyberpunk 2077, but I can live with that. Total War Warhammer is CPU intensive, so CPU bottleneck there for sure. Third person shooters tend to be more GPU heavy, but I don't play many of them.

 

For a 3070, I would just keep that CPU. You can make sure you have your DDR XMP profile enabled in the bios to make sure you are getting the full performance if you have more than 2400 of DDR speed.

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21 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

They're run at exactly the same frequency at stock values - only get the K if you plan to OC (which you should).

Really? That's odd, I always thought the non K version of intel processors usually had lower factory clocks and even less cache or something. 


 

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The Intel Core i7-8700 is a high-end desktop processor with six cores based on the Coffee Lake architecture and was announced in September 2017. The processor clocks at between 3.2 and 4.6 GHz.

 

The Intel Core i7-8700K is a high-end desktop processor with six cores based on the Coffee Lake architecture and was announced in September 2017. The processor clocks at between 3.7 and 4.7 GHz and can execute

 

Granted thats less a difference than I thought, but still a difference. 


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23 minutes ago, maizenblue said:

Really? That's odd, I always thought the non K version of intel processors usually had lower factory clocks and even less cache or something. 


 

Granted thats less a difference than I thought, but still a difference. 

They will never ever run at max single core boost.

 

Both chips at stock run at 4.3ghz all core all the time in real life as long as cooling is sufficient. Using a Z board will further remove any turbo limit durations on either chip and allow fast ram making them perform nearly identically. They also have the same cache size.

 

I have both chips and can confirm. It's always worth getting a Z board for intel chips, regardless if using a k or non k chip.


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