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How the HELL do i cable manage THIS

Okay I'm not going to be as downer as some of the others here are, but they're not entirely wrong.  There are a LOT of limits to what you can do here.

 

But you can definitely make a difference inside:

 

Okay, here's what I would do:

 

One, buy some zip strips, the tiny ones are fine for inside the case.
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Two, unplug everything related to the PSU (And SATA Cables) from inside the case:

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Unplug all the cables in the Orange bubbles.  They're plenty easy to unhook.  (The tall bubble over the bundle of wires?  The main 24 pin, or whatever pins that system has, should be under it.

 

NOTE:  Do NOT start unplugging the super thin cords at the very bottom of the motherboard  (The ones under the Red Box.)  They're way more annoying to deal with plugging back in.  But you can probably route them a little better once the mess of PSU wires is out of the way.

 

Once everything is unplugged, start trying to separate out the cords individually, so you can see what goes where. 

Example:

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That cable can be freed up from the messy bundle, and just be wrapped up some to go from the PSU to that plug directly.  

 

There are at least a couple cords in there that aren't being used, once they're separated, you could stuff them on top of the CD Rom Drive, out of the way.

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But also, as mentioned, you need new thermal paste on the CPU, since you removed the HSF.

 

Otherwise, it is what it is, there isn't a lot of change you can make to this system to improve things.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

 Bit more context.

This a prebuilt pc.

This is only the second time my case has been opened up and the first time Ive seen whats inside. Why? My parents forbade us(me&my brother) from ever opening up the case incase we would break anything inside. The only other time it was opened up was in 2017 when the GPU(GTX 1050ti) was installed. So please pardon the dust, i have tried to clean it to the best of my abilities with a paintbrush (cant afford a datavac & regular vaccum cleaner makes too much noise @4 am) 

I opened the pc because it was making noises worse than a horny bison and when i opened it up i was greeted with cities of dust and bridges made of cobwebs. I cleaned as much as i could(couldn't get everything, again. Paintbrush)

And cable management so bad if i were to slit my throat right now i would be sent to hell for the CM even tough i didn't do it. 

Here are the pictures so i dont have to die inside alone.

Pic one is the before of the CPU cleaning (you can see some of the horrible cable management.

Pic 2 is the cable management,how bad it was when i opened up the case and a clan CPU(no i didn't apply new thermal paste i dont have it lying around. Yes you can grill me for that)

Pic 3&4 are just me putting everything back in their place and trying to do my best to make sure the cables dont get more fucked up.

 

I am NOT a pc builder. I have NEVER opened up a pc before. I have no experience with this sort of thing. I have just tried my best and i dont even know if the pc will power on anymore because i have tampered with it. I could certainly use some help here.

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Prebuilt? I wouldn't even bother.


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god bless this pc if there is any reduced airflow


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17 minutes ago, BlackRose said:

Pic 2 is the cable management,how bad it was when i opened up the case and a clan CPU(no i didn't apply new thermal paste i dont have it lying around. Yes you can grill me for that)

that's a good way to cook your cpu. im not "grilling" you for it, as it is your pc that you will break if you don't use any...

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Just zip tie things up as neatly as you can. You are not managing that. Clean up the dust on the board. DO NOT USE A VACUUM! Use paper tows and duster or an air compressor. Once done, put it all back together. That system will not beneifit for having cable management. It is a prebuilt. 


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It's fine honestly... Looks like you removed the mega disgusting dust which would have been a much bigger concern otherwise...

 

PS: and put some thermal paste on the cpu lmao (;ŏ﹏ŏ)


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20 minutes ago, BlackRose said:

no i didn't apply new thermal paste

Can we get Fs in the chat for the CPU?

 

If it doesn't have a side panel, it's not really worth the effort, especially since you said that you've never built a PC before. I wouldn't gamble having a non-functional PC and unleashing the wrath of your parents for no real benefit.


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If the cables are accessible, don't even worry about it. That doesn't look like a machine with a side panel window.


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42 minutes ago, onlybuilt4cubanxlinx said:

I just hope you put on some thermal paste when putting your cooler back on.

I didn't because i couldn't.

It was 2 am when i took it apart. I dont have any lying around and i couldn't just go out and buy one

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Crap motherboard,dangerous power supply and awful airflow - why bother?


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Above the DVD drive is a good place to store/hide some cables. I've done it personally and you seem to have a ton of space up there. But seriously, your PSU, I can hear the smoke alarms and sirens from here. 


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cable management is fine, as long as it's not stopping any fan from spinning then it's fine

 

as for dust, bring it outside and blow on it with a fan while you use a soft brush to brush off the dust

 

also consider getting thermal paste and isopropyl alcohol (70% ones that's used for wound sanitizing from pharmacy is fine, higher % is better), and remove the CPU cooler for better cleaning+repasting


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12 hours ago, Vishera said:

Crap motherboard,dangerous power supply and awful airflow - why bother?

Maybe, that's all his has.

 

Your suggestion for advice boils down to "sling it in the bin, lad"...lol.

 

I mean, there is always a chance it can be salvaged...right?

 

 

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13 hours ago, dizmo said:

Prebuilt? I wouldn't even bother.

Are there no good pre-built on the market at all?

 

I know the general consensus is, if it is at all feasible, to buy the parts and build it yourself. 

 

But, are there really no pre-builts out there that do anything right?

 

Or, is it more of a case of the pc "community" being burnt over the years by poorly made pre-built machines, and as such they just don't even give them the time of day anymore?

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Just change it all to wireless cables.


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22 minutes ago, Maury Sells Wigs said:

But, are there really no pre-builts out there that do anything right?

 

99% of the pre-builts do not do things right.

The only one that does is NZXT.

47 minutes ago, Maury Sells Wigs said:

Maybe, that's all his has.

 

Your suggestion for advice boils down to "sling it in the bin, lad"...lol.

 

I mean, there is always a chance it can be salvaged...right?

 

 

The CPU,RAM,Storage and the GPU are probably salvageable.


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45 minutes ago, Vishera said:

99% of the pre-builts do not do things right.

The only one that does is NZXT.

The CPU,RAM,Storage and the GPU are probably salvageable.

99%?

 

I would hope that's a slight exaggeration. 

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5 minutes ago, Maury Sells Wigs said:

99%?

 

I would hope that's a slight exaggeration. 

Unfortunately it isn't...

I look at the stores,they are just bad.

The majority of them have cheap motherboards with no heatsinks for the VRMs,2400MHz RAM,cheap DRAM-less QLC SSDs,and bad airflow.

 

This one is fairly bad:

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2 hours ago, Maury Sells Wigs said:

Are there no good pre-built on the market at all?

 

I know the general consensus is, if it is at all feasible, to buy the parts and build it yourself. 

 

But, are there really no pre-builts out there that do anything right?

 

Or, is it more of a case of the pc "community" being burnt over the years by poorly made pre-built machines, and as such they just don't even give them the time of day anymore?

There are good prebuilts, they're just priced significantly higher than something you could build on your own and building a PC is about as hard as putting together a simple LEGO set.


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3 hours ago, Maury Sells Wigs said:

Are there no good pre-built on the market at all?

 

I know the general consensus is, if it is at all feasible, to buy the parts and build it yourself. 

 

But, are there really no pre-builts out there that do anything right?

 

Or, is it more of a case of the pc "community" being burnt over the years by poorly made pre-built machines, and as such they just don't even give them the time of day anymore?

Most of what I would consider your everyday computing and office prebuilts are built pretty well. Honestly, I would trust an OEM like Dell or HP over a small computer shop that would cheap out on things like cases and PSUs. And that is something that occurs more often than you would think. 

 

In terms of the PCMR community being hard on prebuilts, part of it is definitely history. Especially in the early to mid 2000s, prebuilts were built using components that weren't the best (BestTec PSUs were notorious to literally catching on fire). And back then sales reps were a lot less knowledgeable and trust worthy when it came to recommending gaming PCs (or really PCs in general). You could argue that issue still exists today but it's miles better than what things were like 15 years ago. It's been shown time and time again that for a midrange gaming PC, it's pretty hard to beat OEMs these days. By building it yourself, you're not saving a whole lot of money if any and you do not get the added bonus of having a single point of contact for warranty support. If something goes wrong, you're phoning the component manufacturers yourself and troubleshooting the system yourself. So there's definitely some unfair dirt being thrown at OEMs by the PCMR community. 


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You can try to find some kind of routing or looming strategy for the cables, but the reality is that cable management is extremely case specific.

It would be very hard to give any examples specific to your situation without actually being at your machine.

Really, the only way to move forward is to unbundle the cables, and try to rebundle them, but better. YMMV as to whether that will actually improve anything in a case like that.


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