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3080 benchmarks are in! Are they good?

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50 minutes ago, Fatih19 said:

AMD will have to pull some serious rabbits out of their hats.

When Nvidia claims 2x the performance of 2080. I think it's a very high bar for AMD to reach. Now, the reviews are out. It's more like 50 - 60 percent better. May be AMD can pull something out of the hat to match the 3080. Especially Nvidia sets the state it's ok for a card to draw 300+w.

 

Wait and see. I'm fine with the performance of the 3080. Just want more VRAM for some workload. 16GB would be sweet.

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3 minutes ago, AldiPrayogi said:

That power draw though goddamn

 

 

p.s it's also kinda hilarious to see the 5700XT going 'nope' in LTT's video lol

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4 minutes ago, Deli said:

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rumors have been 3080 for cheaper, it looks more likely now that the 3080 reviews are out.


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2 minutes ago, xg32 said:

rumors have been 3080 for cheaper, it looks more likely now that the 3080 reviews are out.

Same price but give me more VRAM.

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11 minutes ago, mousesnob said:

Wait does dsr increase fps now? Or are you just reffering to getting higher gpu usage?

 

I'll be mostly playing 1080p at low ish settigns

Basically you use DSR to output to process at higher resolution and then DLSS to render less of it. I wonder if this is even possible lol. So that you render at 4K using DSR to 1080p and then save compute power by using DLSS at 4K which is natively rendered at 1080p or 1440p. Lol, what a mess. And I don't think you can use DLSS and DSR at the same time.

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1 hour ago, Medicate said:

Nvidia claimed a 80% improvement over the 2080

They claimed double. It is on vray.


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1 minute ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

They claimed double. It is on vray.

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1 hour ago, spartaman64 said:

probably need to upgrade to 4k to fully remove the bottleneck but yeah 1440p will help

Maybe not if you do ray tracing and high refreshrate depending on the game.

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My thoughts? Not worth getting unless you are playing at 4k.

 

Even as high as 1440p, ALL current CPUs on average bottleneck the 308.

 

Seems from most outlets reporting, the performance uplift from 2080ti is around 20% at 1440p and 30% at 4k, giving 4k a massive 50% gain in performance delta by going up a resolution.

 

This isn't even considering the 3090, whose bottlenecking will be even MORE apparent.

 

Might be worth it for 1440p users if they want quiet operation and a future CPU upgrade, though.

 

Most 1440p users should wait for the 3070, Big Navi, or a cheap second hand 2080ti, because even if you have a fancy 240hz 1440p display, your CPU is too slow to power it.


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6 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

Now all AMD has to do is match the performance of a 2080/2080Ti, make it consume much less power and sell it for less.

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EiCkiudU8AQjppO.thumb.jpeg.04924bcb276de0af2c17e94a0f2c0720.jpegThis is what convinced me to get the 3080 really. I plan on running MSFS on more than ultra settings (manually tweaking LOD to 9x instead of Ultra's 2x in the cfg) with addon aircraft and airports, so this card will basically be a requirement to have a smooth experience 


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35 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Basically you use DSR to output to process at higher resolution and then DLSS to render less of it. I wonder if this is even possible lol. So that you render at 4K using DSR to 1080p and then save compute power by using DLSS at 4K which is natively rendered at 1080p or 1440p. Lol, what a mess. And I don't think you can use DLSS and DSR at the same time.

This is a 200 IQ play if you can use both at the same time :D I want to try it now

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It's no the GPU, it's the CPU bottlenecking the GPU like Jensen said, that's why it's not 80% faster.


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2 hours ago, Consul said:

Okay so I have a 8700k and I want to buy a 3080.
I need to upgrade my 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor in order to essentially remove the bottleneck, right?
(However I will be using my 1080p monitor until I have the money for a 1440p and regardless of bottleneck, its still going to be a huge upgrade from a 1060 6gb)

You can still game at 1440p using your current 1080p monitor using nVidia DSR. I do that too and I play GTAV at 1440p on my 1080p monitor and GTA4 at 2160p.

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13 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

This is what convinced me to get the 3080 really. I plan on running MSFS on more than ultra settings (manually tweaking LOD to 9x instead of Ultra's 2x in the cfg) with addon aircraft and airports, so this card will basically be a requirement to have a smooth experience 

just wait, your going to want more VRAM


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15 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

EiCkiudU8AQjppO.thumb.jpeg.04924bcb276de0af2c17e94a0f2c0720.jpegThis is what convinced me to get the 3080 really. I plan on running MSFS on more than ultra settings (manually tweaking LOD to 9x instead of Ultra's 2x in the cfg) with addon aircraft and airports, so this card will basically be a requirement to have a smooth experience 

41 fps is smooth?


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2 minutes ago, mousesnob said:

41 fps is smooth?

Yes, very smooth. This is a flight sim we are talking about remember, I'll keep turning up settings till im down to 30fps.

 

4 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

just wait, your going to want more VRAM

That would be true, but I plan on using 1440p (with much higher settings than ultra) so I think I should be fine. 


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1 hour ago, D13H4RD said:

Not sure what people were expecting tbh. You shouldn't trust marketing

Agreed!

Nvidia really got me with the hype train so I am quite a bit disappointed.

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Don't rush and buy cards wait for RDNA2 to be out


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Looks like the 3080 will bottleneck my 5930k... will wait and see what the new Ryzen 4000 can do vs a 10900k, but now I’m wondering if a 3090 will be bottlenecked by a 144hz 1440p screen...


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Now I'm a bit worried. I'd go with RTX 3080, but being on several generations old CPU, despite being very capable and overclocked hexa core, I don't think I'll be seeing the same uplift. Especially since I'm running stuff at 1080p.

 

Might wait, grab Ryzen 4800X and then go with some better gfx later on. Or just grab RTX 3080 now and grab Ryzen 4800X later...

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I feel that when a "Ti" variant comes out, we're still going to get stuffed on the pricing here.

It'll no doubt be close to €/$/£1K

1080Ti was about 6-700, which is what we pay for 3080 now.

It will only seem reasonable because we were so effing scammed by the price of the 2080Ti.

 

I am kinda disappointed that there's no DP2.0 as well. By the time a Ti level card comes out, there will be 4k monitors with DP2.0, capable of over 120hz so the HDMI standard will not be enough to play in 4K at the frame rates that card will be capable of.

If you don't play AAA games and want to play in 4K at over 120hz, its still no good for you.

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2 hours ago, Consul said:

Okay so I have a 8700k and I want to buy a 3080.
I need to upgrade my 1080p monitor to a 1440p monitor in order to essentially remove the bottleneck, right?
(However I will be using my 1080p monitor until I have the money for a 1440p and regardless of bottleneck, its still going to be a huge upgrade from a 1060 6gb)

At 1080p you'll probably have a roughly equally CPU/GPU bottlenecked system. 


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