Church Stream PC Build

[Ansem117]

Im building a dedicated streaming PC for my church, plan on using OBS and live stream to facebook. Wanting to stream at 1080P but can do 720P as long as its clear. This is the build i have pieced and was wondering if anybody with similar stream experience could tell me if this is overkill, good to go or needs more (such as a capture card). I have never streamed before so am unfamiliar with that world.

Component		Selection		Base	Promo	Shipping	Tax	Price	Where
CPU			AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$209.99				$209.99		Buy
Motherboard			MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99		FREE		$99.99		Buy
Memory			G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory From parametric filter: Form Factor: 288-pin DIMM; Speed: 3600 - 5000; Modules: 2 x 8GB; CAS Latency: 3 - 16	$69.99		FREE		$69.99		Buy
Storage			Team MP33 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive From parametric filter: Capacity: 500 GB - 16000 GB; Type: SSD; Form Factor: M.2-2280; Interface: M.2 (M)	$53.99				$53.99		Buy
Video Card			Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB GAMING Video Card From parametric filter: Chipset: GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER; Length: 223 mm - 403 mm; Cooling: 2 Fans, 3 Fans	$239.99		FREE		$239.99		Buy
Case			Cougar MX330-G ATX Mid Tower Case	$44.99		$6.99		$51.98		Buy
Power Supply			EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$79.98				$79.98		Buy
Operating System			Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$108.78		FREE		$108.78		Buy
Case Fan			Corsair AF120 (2018) 52 CFM 120 mm Fans 3-Pack	$39.99		FREE		$39.99		Buy
Monitor			LG 24M47VQ 24.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor	$99.99				$99.99		Buy
Keyboard			Redragon K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard	$37.99				$37.99		Buy
Mouse			Logitech M330 SILENT PLUS Wireless Optical Mouse	$14.99		FREE		$14.99		Buy

[Moonzy]

7 minutes ago, Ansem117 said:

good to go or needs more (such as a capture card)

what device will be used to record? how does it interface with the PC?

 

overall it's a very overkill PC for the job

[TempestCatto]

You'll need a capture card to go from your camera to the PC. If you have more than one camera, that changes things too. You'll also need to figure out how you're going to get audio as well. Are you gonna go from the mixer into the PC, or use whatever the camera has? Personally, I'd go from the mixer to the PC as it would sound more clear.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Elgato-Game-Capture-HD60-Pro/dp/B014MQIVPS/ref=pd_lpo_147_t_1/142-6449688-0419128?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B014MQIVPS&pd_rd_r=070c9fe3-9734-4074-9176-eeb21d4a81b9&pd_rd_w=XbTKw&pd_rd_wg=3tK80&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=ZCG96RYE6SNV9F3ENQC9&psc=1&refRID=ZCG96RYE6SNV9F3ENQC9

 

If you're gonna take your audio from the mixer, you'll first need to figure out what kind of outputs your mixer has. Some you can just use an RCA to 3.5mm cable and go right into the sound card on the motherboard. If not, you may have to go XLR out, which may require an audio interface (I don't like those XLR to 3.5mm cables, they never sound right to me).

[dalekphalm]

5 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

what device will be used to record? how does it interface with the PC?

 

overall it's a very overkill PC for the job

Agreed - why does he need a GTX 1660 in there? You can stream using an Intel iGPU if you need to.

 

Aside from that, if you're putting in a powerful GPU, then you don't need a powerful CPU - and vice versa. If you use a software encoder, it'll use the CPU. If you use a hardware encoder, it'll use the GPU (whether discrete via NVENC, etc, or integrated via QuickSync).

 

QuickSync should be 100% sufficient for a church's needs.

 

If they have the budget, and specifically want some higher end components, like an NVME SSD (overkill unless amazing value), that's one thing. But these components are simply not required.

 

I would include an i5 (has it's own iGPU) or Ryzen 5 and the cheapest lowest end GPU - or I would replace the Ryzen 5 with the absolute cheapest AMD CPU plus a low-ish end or older mid-range GPU (1660 is still overkill even here).

[GhostRoadieBL]

super overkill, i'd look at a i5-10500, 16GB RAM, 240GB SSD and 2TB+ HDD (added storage for regular backup image to restore quickly if it goes down)

integrated GPU is perfect for a simple stream, some cameras have built in "webcam" software so it might save you from needing a capture card. 

 

[Moonzy]

15 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Agreed - why does he need a GTX 1660 in there? You can stream using an Intel iGPU if you need to

i would say having a 1650 super is nice for NVENC Turing (for a little bit better visual quality, quicksync  is dead in my eyes, so is AMD's encoder.)

 

alternatively, software x264 is fine on medium/slow, which is slightly lower quality than NVENC Turing

it is also very heavy on CPU, which he may need to process captured audio/video footage.

 

so if he wants a GPU, 1650 Super is good enough, any other 16/20 series gpu uses the same NVENC (other than 1650, which uses NVENC Volta, which is slightly inferior to x264 medium in most cases)

[IBM_THINKPAD_R51]

U built a gaming PC, not a stream PC

[Ansem117]

Thanks you all for the replies, that is exactly what i was afraid of doing because my PC knowledge (while very limited) is gaming and when doing lots of research most of what I found was how to stream/game or stream to twitch and such from console and so forth. We do have a camera (nice panasonic but i don't remember exact model) and we were streaming before but had two problems. One was the internet connection which has been fixed, the other was a Lenovo all-in-one that just couldn't keep up with encoding and uploading which is what i'm replacing. Stream would be very choppy and buffer and audio would be off time often. A lot of this was setup prior to me getting involved. We are getting audio directly from the mixer. With no real knowledge of streaming very open to suggestions on how best to go about this whether CPU x264 encoding or NVENC on a 1650 Super. I just remembered that we already have a Magewill (I believe) HDMI capture card for the Camera to computer. Once again i really appreciate the answers and certainly sounds like i can back it off and save some money.

[SansVarnic]

-= Topic moved to New Builds and Planning =-

[Quinnell]

As others have said, this is super overkill.  You should be well-served with a moderately powerful workstation build.  No GPU needed, just a decent CPU. 

Unless you have poor ventilation or the room is warm where your PC will be, I also don't think you need to shell out for additional fans.  Just use what comes stock with the case and CPU.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$139.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Asus PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Value 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory	$30.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon
Case	Rosewill FBM-06 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$35.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$49.99 @ Walmart
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$139.88 @ Other World Computing
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$516.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-11 00:13 EDT-0400

Add your own choice of peripherals and this should be a decent build for what you're looking to do.

[Ansem117]

Thank you all for the help!

 

[dalekphalm]

9 hours ago, Quinnell said:

As others have said, this is super overkill.  You should be well-served with a moderately powerful workstation build.  No GPU needed, just a decent CPU. 

Unless you have poor ventilation or the room is warm where your PC will be, I also don't think you need to shell out for additional fans.  Just use what comes stock with the case and CPU.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$139.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard	Asus PRIME A320M-K Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ B&H
Memory	G.Skill Value 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2400 CL17 Memory	$30.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$59.99 @ Amazon
Case	Rosewill FBM-06 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$35.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$49.99 @ Walmart
Operating System	Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit	$139.88 @ Other World Computing
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$516.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-11 00:13 EDT-0400

Add your own choice of peripherals and this should be a decent build for what you're looking to do.

Keep in mind that Ryzen 5 2600 does not have an iGPU. You'll need to add a cheap GPU (literally the cheapest one on sale, like a GT710 or an HD5450).

 

Alternatively you could grab a Ryzen APU instead, like the Ryzen 5 4600G or 4600GE - those have integrated graphics. (The G is 65W while the GE is 35W TDP).

[Quinnell]

On 9/11/2020 at 8:57 AM, dalekphalm said:

Keep in mind that Ryzen 5 2600 does not have an iGPU. You'll need to add a cheap GPU (literally the cheapest one on sale, like a GT710 or an HD5450).

 

Alternatively you could grab a Ryzen APU instead, like the Ryzen 5 4600G or 4600GE - those have integrated graphics. (The G is 65W while the GE is 35W TDP).

What?  Well frick.  @Ansem117 see above.

[dalekphalm]

4 minutes ago, Quinnell said:

What?  Well frick.  @Ansem117 see above.

Yeah it's annoying, but it was a strategic decision that AMD made to:

1. Lower the manufacturing cost per CPU

2. Help differentiate the regular CPU's from the APU's

 

Not too big of a problem, I think - just grab a $40 GPU, or switch the Ryzen 5 CPU out for a Ryzen 5 APU instead (note you'll want to check board compatibility).