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Nvidia 30 Series unveiled - RTX 3080 2x faster than 2080 for $699

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The 3080 spec look quite nice. But the question is, if i should wait for third party manufacturer to release their models or to buy fhe FE? 

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Even though I'd love an FE for the cooler design I will wait for 3rd party because I'd like 2 HDMIs. 

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Why people pronounce "Ampere" so weirdly... Everyone seems to pronounce it as "ampyure". People, Ampere is pronounced the same way as unit A for electricity. Or is everyone so used to call that "amps" that everyone forgot how to properly pronounce it? Then again English does this weird "e is pronounced as i" and Ampere was a French dude... I know I'm nitpicking here, but it really annoys me.

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Really interesting to see what waterblocks will look like for these cards. Since the Founder's PCBs are smaller now, I would assume that these would assume that these would be a lot more small form factor watercooling build friendly.

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The PCB on the FEs seems short enough to remove the cooler and replace it to custom make an ITX single fan length card, which might be a solution to get a 3070 in my SFF build if no 3rd party comes up with one... 🤔

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24 minutes ago, Dissitesuxba11s said:

Really interesting to see what waterblocks will look like for these cards. Since the Founder's PCBs are smaller now, I would assume that these would assume that these would be a lot more small form factor watercooling build friendly.

Looking at EVGA's lineup they're not going with the reference PCB design but rather the traditional design and their water-cooled versions look just like the 20-series.

 

https://www.evga.com/articles/01434/evga-geforce-rtx-30-series/

 

I doubt there will be much of a market for aftermarket water blocks for the reference PCB design considering no AIB seem to be using it. The weird shape of the PCB would cost considerably more to manufacture a block for too.

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5 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

The PCB on the FEs seems short enough to remove the cooler and replace it to custom make an ITX single fan length card, which might be a solution to get a 3070 in my SFF build if no 3rd party comes up with one... 🤔

Do we know if the 3070 would fit in a nzxt H1? I don't want to do a loop to cool a 3070. build planning is a bitch.

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There certainly are some, Zotac has a 240mm 3070.

 

 

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I'm planning on getting a CX 48" ..for 4k 120hz.

 

This unfortunately also means i'm looking for suitably powerful card, and as good as the 3080 sounds, better than we expected, its still doesnt sound like its going to be good enough for 4k 120hz.

 

This means the 3090 becomes the next option, but thats a $1500 card, despite NVIDIA considering the 3080 to be its top tier gaming card, it still chose to call the 3090 a 3090 instead of a Titan. This leads me to believe NVIDIA is pulling another fast one.

 

Either the 3090 IS a Titan , at a good price vs previous gen Titans, meaning they have done something good for the consumer (hahaha ..yea i laughed also)

or

The 3090 is what 'should' have been the 3080ti and they are going to release the actual new Titan later down the line, and they done this just to crank up the price again.

 

Regardless of which one it is, i still expect to see a more powerful card release later on, they have done this every generation since the 700 series.

 

And because of this, i hope even more that somehow despite all the odds and recent history saying otherwise, that AMD release a card under $800 that at least beats the 3080.

I hope, but i very much doubt.

 

 

I still cant believe how disgusting the pricing has become. I bought a top of the line (EVGA Classified) top tier GPU back with 700 series, for £700. Ill be lucky to get a bog standard 'reference' 2nd tier card for that price this time around -.-

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4 hours ago, Gimli said:

Micron must really raking them over the coals over the price of GDDR6X if their "flagship" GPU only has 10GB of it when two generations ago a 1080Ti had 11GB. 

Or maybe Nvidia is keeping a card up their sleeve. 

 

Remember there are confirmed reports from AIB sources of a "3080" with 20gb of gddr6x.

 

From $699 to $1499 is nice "little" gap to drop a 3080ti with 20gb of gddr6x in at $999. 

 

Which really sucks for me as I need to decide whether I wait for this 20gb 3080 to drop or pull the trigger on the titan, I mean 3090.

 

I was fully prepared to buy the 3090 for the rumored $1399, but then then they announced the 3080 for $100 less then rumored and the 3090 for $100 more. 

 

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26 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

Do we know if the 3070 would fit in a nzxt H1? I don't want to do a loop to cool a 3070. build planning is a bitch.

3070: 242x112mm (2 slot)

3080 same but longer at 285mm.

 

For comparison, the reference blower 1070 was 267x111mm. So nvidia 3070 is smaller than 1070 FE ignoring the 1mm height which might just be rounding error. I'd have to give consideration to airflow, but the 3070 should fit in my SG13.

 

13 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

This unfortunately also means i'm looking for suitably powerful card, and as good as the 3080 sounds, better than we expected, its still doesnt sound like its going to be good enough for 4k 120hz.

I've got the B9, and will almost certainly get the 3080. The thing to keep in mind is, you don't always have to be running at the upper end of the refresh rate. As long as the minimums are good enough for you, after all, the CX is G-sync compatible.

 

4 minutes ago, jasonc_01 said:

From $699 to $1499 is nice "little" gap to drop a 3080ti with 20gb of gddr6x in at $999. 

It is probably far enough off given rumours haven't hinted at anything in that space, although anything is possible.

 

I wonder what the cost of GDDR6X is? Probably more than the same quantity of system ram as it is higher performance, and more niche. 

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If AMD releases a 3080 competitor that draws <300W, it'll be an instant purchase for me.

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5 minutes ago, IrshaadH said:

If AMD releases a 3080 competitor that draws <300W, it'll be an instant purchase for me.

Id wait to see performance numbers :P If they pull another Vega 56/64 debacle it wont be a good choice.

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Just now, Shimejii said:

Id wait to see performance numbers :P If they pull another Vega 56/64 debacle it wont be a good choice.

I agree. The big difference is that AMD now has boatloads of investor money they could put towards GPU R&D.

 

I may be alone in this, but going from a ~180W GTX 1080 to a 350W RTX 3080 is a tough pill to swallow, even if it will be 4x as powerful.

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7 minutes ago, porina said:

It is probably far enough off given rumours haven't hinted at anything in that space, although anything is possible.

 

I wonder what the cost of GDDR6X is? Probably more than the same quantity of system ram as it is higher performance, and more niche. 

I think the price of the memory is why the release date or cost of the 20GB 3080 haven't been announced yet, and also why the 3090 is so much more expensive than the 3080, despite the rest of the specs really not warranting that large a gap. We probably won't see a release of that model until the manufacturing of GDDR6X ramps up to full production and economies of scale start reducing cost, at which point jasonc_01's prediction might come true. Hopefully that doesn't take too long but I would expect around 6 months.

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For a lot of 2080 Ti owners like myself, the best bet is to simply chill and wait for the 3080 Super/Ti that is likely to come for what I think will be $999. If upgrading right now is a must for whatever reason, I'd say just get the 3090 and be done with it for another 3 years or so.

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Everyone is freaking out about the stock coolers on the Nvidia Cards.

It appears the left one is exhausting the GPU Heat.

The right one is likely exhausting the VRM heat into the CPU Cooler, which everyone is freaking out about.

Remember that when your own water block you literally install some thermal pads and some heat is transferred through the metal.

It isn't a ton of heat that is transferred from the VRM's i don't think this is much of an issue TBH.

If VRM's were dumping that much heat you wouldn't be putting passive fin stacks on them with a bit of air. :)

 

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4 minutes ago, Gimli said:

I think the price of the memory is why the release date or cost of the 20GB 3080 haven't been announced yet, and also why the 3090 is so much more expensive than the 3080, despite the rest of the specs really not warranting that large a gap. We probably won't see a release of that model until the manufacturing of GDDR6X ramps up to full production and economies of scale start reducing cost, at which point jasonc_01's prediction might come true. Hopefully that doesn't take too long but I would expect around 6 months.

The Memory is not the reason why the cost is that much. Its because Nvidia CAN do it. The memory cost is not as high as you think. 2080ti Memory costed about 129$, So 3090 Memory should cost around 300$ for the 24 GDDR6x, so 3080 should cost roughly 130$ in memory. Is the Uber Price card at launch to rake in as much profit as possible for 6 months unil march/april when the 3080ti with 20GB of Memory comes out with around 9800 Cuda cores.

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Shot in the dark, but anyone know about how long before reviewers will be putting out videos?  Does nvidia usually wait until the card is released to allow it?

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16 minutes ago, IrshaadH said:

If AMD releases a 3080 competitor that draws <300W, it'll be an instant purchase for me.

Why does the power consumption matters to you? Worried it will generate more heat then the cooler can dissipate?

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14 minutes ago, IrshaadH said:

I agree. The big difference is that AMD now has boatloads of investor money they could put towards GPU R&D.

 

I may be alone in this, but going from a ~180W GTX 1080 to a 350W RTX 3080 is a tough pill to swallow, even if it will be 4x as powerful.

You don't buy a Ferrari to be ecological. You buy one to go fast. And RTX 3000 series are fast apparently. Problem is when you have such consumption and you're not even fast. RX Vega was having that issue. So, there are times when high power draw is justifiable.

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The hell with the new cards; why does Jensen have so many cake spatulas on his counter?

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8 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

In my opinion, those cards look terrible (assuming that's actually how they look) , but that's my opinion lol.

I really like them  I also liked the previous FE designs,  but the 3070 looks awful lol wtf were they thinking. 🤣

 

Also 8GB, oof. 

 

That said 700 for the 3080 seems "reasonable"?  (even if I can't afford it)

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3 minutes ago, MegaDave91 said:

The hell with the new cards; why does Jensen have so many cake spatulas on his counter?

He likes cakes

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4 minutes ago, MegaDave91 said:

The hell with the new cards; why does Jensen have so many cake spatulas on his counter?

He likes to spanky spanky?

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