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Nvidia 30 Series unveiled - RTX 3080 2x faster than 2080 for $699

illegalwater
By illegalwater
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Did anyone else notice the 3090 has an insane bump in CUDA core count. The RTX2080ti sits at 4352 and the 3090 is at 10496... Also the GA100 GPU uses a cluster GPU design like AMDs EPYC CPUs. It's specs are

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8 GPCs, 8 TPCs/GPC, 2 SMs/TPC, 16 SMs/GPC, 128 SMs per full GPU
● 64 FP32 CUDA Cores/SM, 8192 FP32 CUDA Cores per full GPU
● 4 Third-generation Tensor Cores/SM, 512 Third-generation Tensor Cores per full GPU
● 6 HBM2 stacks, 12 512-bit Memory Controllers 

So unless I am reading this wrong is the 3090 technically a dual core GPU on the same die?

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3 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Did anyone else notice the 3090 has an insane bump in CUDA core count. The RTX2080ti sits at 4352 and the 3090 is at 10496... Also the GA100 GPU uses a cluster GPU design like AMDs EPYC CPUs. It's specs are

So unless I am reading this wrong is the 3090 technically a dual core GPU on the same die?

the 3080 has 8704 so no

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Holy crap I just noticed that the 30 series supports hardware accelerated decoding of AV1!

This means that both Nvidia and Intel will support AV1 with their upcoming products. 

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-30-series-av1-decoding/

 

 

According to Nvidia, with AV1, a Twitch stream at 1440p and 120 FPS will only need 8Mbps of bandwidth. 

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4 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Did anyone else notice the 3090 has an insane bump in CUDA core count. The RTX2080ti sits at 4352 and the 3090 is at 10496...

Jensen said they doubled the shaders. If that also impacts the CUDA core, older gen is looking very obsolete for compute use cases.

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8 minutes ago, dfsgsfa said:

is 8gb enough for 3070??

i smell more ram varients coming....

Rumors and leaks suggested that the GeForce 3080 will get a 20GB model. 

But that is all. And even then, probably it will depend on AMD answer.

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1 minute ago, GoodBytes said:

But that is all. And even then, probably it will depend on AMD answer.

we hope to see return of rtx super as reaction of AMD

AMD YES , then i will buy rtx 3070 super thx

 

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How many spatulas does one person need?

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10 minutes ago, porina said:

Jensen said they doubled the shaders. If that also impacts the CUDA core, older gen is looking very obsolete for compute use cases.

So far it appears so lol

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So how much the old series will be priced in the used market?

 

Without taking in consideration the thing that maybe the resellers could inflate the prices of the new cards, to sell better the older ones

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15 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Holy crap I just noticed that the 30 series supports hardware accelerated decoding of AV1!

This means that both Nvidia and Intel will support AV1 with their upcoming products. 

 

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/rtx-30-series-av1-decoding/

 

 

According to Nvidia, with AV1, a Twitch stream at 1440p and 120 FPS will only need 8Mbps of bandwidth. 

it says decoder but does it encode also?

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I'm waiting for AMD to retort, then it might be finally time for me to retire my GTX-980.

 

Why are people complaining about DisplayPort? Am I the odd man out who actually prefers displayport?

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 they shrink the gpu to 8nm tech together with adding so much cuda cores, BUT it doesnt scale up correctly!!

almost 2x cuda  core on 3080 is just 80% faster than a rtx2080??

they just brutfully add more cores and ignoring 8nm tech!! thats why its soo damn hot

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1 minute ago, spartaman64 said:

it says decoder but does it encode also?

Sadly only decoding from what I can tell.

The 8Mbps number is for viewers watching Twitch, assuming Twitch encodes to AV1.

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why is 3090 double the price of 3080, are they planing to release 3080ti in the middle then? I watched whole live stream, but it stays unclear for me

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Just watched the Digital Foundry video. That power adapter cable is UGLY. Was hoping it'll be long enough so that the 8-pins could be hidden away, but it is short and stubby. 

 

Also looking at other AIB cards:

 

Gigabyte 3090 Gaming/Eagle has 3 DP + 2 HDMI ports, so hope they continue that on the 3080 also. Conventional 3 fan cards. Aorus 2x8 pin PCIe + LCD.

Asus: similar to Gigabyte above. 

EVGA is 3 DP + 1 HDMI

MSI: can't tell from pics

 

I guess depending on pricing and availability I'd have to look towards Gigabyte and Asus cards. More likely the former as the Asus brand tax is a bit much.

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@LinusTech I fully expect a watercooled 3090 within 24hours of the first card landing in the studio.

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4 minutes ago, Lakobrija said:

why is 3090 double the price of 3080, are they planing to release 3080ti in the middle then? I watched whole live stream, but it stays unclear for me

More than double the memory (24GB versus 10GB) and a complexity that likely affects the ability to produce enough of them in volume.

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17 minutes ago, Xvaster said:

So how much the old series will be priced in the used market?

We'll have to wait and see once more performance comparisons are done by more people in more test cases. The 3070 kinda sets a cap to what old gen can sell for. In a month my 1080Ti is little more than a paperweight.

 

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Without taking in consideration the thing that maybe the resellers could inflate the prices of the new cards, to sell better the older ones

We don't know how well nvidia have built up supplies, but if there is a shortage then yes there could be some early price inflation. This is not unusual. 

 

17 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Why are people complaining about DisplayPort? Am I the odd man out who actually prefers displayport?

I've nothing against it, but I just want MORE than a single HDMI. TVs tend to only have HDMI, and while I don't know about recent more recent VR offerings, my Vive works best with HDMI.

 

It looks like cards with only 4 display outputs are following nvidia's reference with 3 DP + 1 HDMI. Asus and Gigabyte seem to have 5 outputs, so you get an extra HDMI for people like me.

 

Or I can just buy a separate card for my VR system since it is a separate system currently.

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3 minutes ago, Commodus said:

More than double the memory (24GB versus 10GB) and a complexity that likely affects the ability to produce enough of them in volume.

yeah it is 2,4x more vram and 2000 mor cudas but still, too much difference between these 2

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Literally bought a 2070 Super like 3 weeks ago for $475. Could not have been a worse time lol. 

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I'm not looking through the thread to find it, but someone earlier was questioning the cooling improvement claims. Apparently it is up to 20C reduction:

 

 

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22 minutes ago, Real_PhillBert said:

Why are people complaining about DisplayPort? Am I the odd man out who actually prefers displayport?

No you are not alone. I can't find a decent monitor without DisplayPort these days.

It is clear that HDMI is there, just for the few that plan on connecting this graphics card to a TV. That is all.

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4 minutes ago, porina said:

I've nothing against it, but I just want MORE than a single HDMI. TVs tend to only have HDMI, and while I don't know about recent more recent VR offerings, my Vive works best with HDMI.

 

It looks like cards with only 4 display outputs are following nvidia's reference with 3 DP + 1 HDMI. Asus and Gigabyte seem to have 5 outputs, so you get an extra HDMI for people like me.

 

Or I can just buy a separate card for my VR system since it is a separate system currently.

Well you are not representing the majority of people Already VR is very small market share. You can use an adapter, or a DisplayPort to HDMI cable, where each ends are different, if you don't want to see an adapter in the way.

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1 minute ago, M3talGod2 said:

Literally bought a 2070 Super like 3 weeks ago for $475. Could not have been a worse time lol. 

It happens. I know someone who got a 2080Ti last week, knowing full well the next gen is about to come out. It still blows away the 980Ti I gave him previously. Also for him, waiting a month+ was not an option as a game 'tuber/streamer and the old system was literally dying.

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