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Posted · Original PosterOP

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Your arguments are rediculus. If you want a fruitful discussion say something that stands. If you don't like nitch then hide it, you can via software, jack stands exists on most non-flagship, and a few flagships; some have way better drivers for it. And there is no reason to remove battery, maybe after 3-5 years

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17 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

If you don't like nitch then hide it

Software isn't as reliable as the real thing:

17 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

jack stands exists on most non-flagship

Yeah,using a jack stand on a bus or road trip is totally logical and practical.

17 minutes ago, PeachGr said:

And there is no reason to remove battery, maybe after 3-5 years

It's convenient to just swap the battery if you are in a place you can't charge,

Also when the time to replace the battery comes you will have to cut the glue,remove the glass without breaking it,and remove the glued battery without bending it.

Now you have to glue it back together and hope you didn't mess it up.

 

Seems like phones nowdays are made to be disposable.


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4 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Yeah,using a jack stand on a bus or road trip is totally logical and practical.

Thing is that y you can use it OR go Bluetooth

I m sorry but your pics point out that jack is a great feture

 

4 minutes ago, Vishera said:

It's convenient to just swap the battery if you are in a place you can't charge

Instead of carrying a big battery with you that is actually dangerous, buy a power bank that is more practical. I stay away from electricity for days sometimes.

Also it's not a bad thing to give your smartphone to a technician after 3 years to replace battery. So the argument if glass break and glue removal, is a 20$ fix

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I missed the headphone jack up until I got into wireless earbuds, which are overall more convenient and good enough audio-wise for when I'm on the go. 

 

I haven't really missed removable batteries a whole lot. I mean, when I'm at uni or whatever I'll have a powerbank on me, and when I'm just out and about I don't sit on my phone constantly anyway. 

My last phone with a removable battery was a Galaxy S5, and I'd much rather have the more premium and substantial feel in the hand of the phones I've used since (Moto X 2015 and iPhone 7) rather than the flimsy, cheap plastic panel that was on the back of my S5, which felt like a toy. 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, PeachGr said:

Instead of carrying a big battery with you that is actually dangerous, buy a power bank that is more practical.

Hmm,isn't a power bank a big battery too?...

Just now, PeachGr said:

Thing is that y you can use it OR go Bluetooth

I m sorry but your pics point out that jack is a great feture

And how will i use my studio headphones with that?,They have superior sound quality to any Bluetooth headphones out there.

Also you can use Bluetooth on old phones as well.

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

My last phone with a removable battery was a Galaxy S5, and I'd much rather have the more premium and substantial feel in the hand of the phones I've used since (Moto X 2015 and iPhone 7) rather than the flimsy, cheap plastic panel that was on the back of my S5, which felt like a toy. 

There were phones that felt premium back then but not much,for example the LG V20:

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52 minutes ago, Vishera said:

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It's called progress? Fewer ports and moving parts are better for longevity and most people use wireless headphones now anyway. Also hardware and software is greatly improved in terms of SoC, Camera, security, usability and features. 


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Really wish my S4 note wasnt locked to AT&T. I really miss using it as my daily. I would give anything for an unlocked one with a battery expansion case. Would install lineage OS and it would run good as new.

Older phones really were the best.


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Despite all of what was pointed out at the end of the day after all the complaining, im fine with it. Though I wish more smaller phones existed in this sea of 6' flat bricks that barely fit in my pockets.


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"In the past", proceeds to show modern high end smartphone. I guess I'm getting old, but not what I was expecting to see in a contrast between "modern" and "back then" lol.

 

My S10e still feels premium to me. The only thing I would miss is the 3.5mm jack because I like my earbuds wired.

 

30 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Hmm,isn't a power bank a big battery too?...

It is, but it has power control circuitry attached and is in an enclosure which prevents stuff from potentially damaging or puncturing the battery, resulting in a nasty fire.


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1 minute ago, tikker said:

It is, but it has power control circuitry attached and is in an enclosure which prevents stuff from potentially damaging or puncturing the battery, resulting in a nasty fire.

How can you puncture a battery that is shielded with thick plastic layer and has a protective case in addition?

Also i am certain that those older designs of smartphones batteries had power control circuitry attached,because we already carried them around like that at that era.

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velvet v60 from LG has enhanced sound quality.
And having a dongle is not a big deal.
its a usb-c to audio jack, you put it in your studio headset bag and you are good to go.
And a power bank is not really the same as a big battery.
It is protected by a hard shell

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Just now, PeachGr said:

It is protected by a hard shell

So are removable batteries...

Just now, PeachGr said:

And having a dongle is not a big deal.

Can you charge and use wired headphones at the same time?...


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37 minutes ago, Vishera said:

How can you puncture a battery that is shielded with thick plastic layer and has a protective case in addition?

Also i am certain that those older designs of smartphones batteries had power control circuitry attached,because we already carried them around like that at that era.

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Well if you're carrying one around in such a case, then of course there is a lesser chance of puncturing it. I was thinking about carrying aroud a battery by itself. Also, since charging is done with it in the phone, the battery probably doesn't have any control circuitry. If you carry around a bulky plastic case with a battery, you might as well carry a powerbank which is the same except you can charge it separately from your phone as well.


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2 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Can you charge and use wired headphones at the same time?...

well yes. For the rare case that you actually need it you can charge and plug the headphones at the same time.

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I really don't think you've thought a few of your opinions through.

 

For example, removable batteries. Sure, they were ok back in the day when screens were small, and we had to have thicker devices. The battery life on phones back then was also pretty bad, so it was handy to have a removable battery. However, fast forward to today. Screens are significantly larger, and the phones are thinner. Phones would have to be significantly thicker to accommodate a replaceable battery; something not many people are willing to trade for. Battery life is also monumentally better than it was back in those days, so the need to replace the battery during the day isn't really there except for the extreme power user. With the very high rate chargers available now, that's a non-issue.

 

Headphone jacks are becoming more and more obsolescent on mobile devices as BT headphones become cheaper, more compact, and better sounding. If you have a good enough pair of headphones that you want to take with you, you're probably better off using them with either a DAP or a proper AMP/DAC connected to the phone, which, surprise surprise, uses USB C. A phone can't power decent headphones properly, and the DACs are usually shit. Yes, there are very, very uncommon outliers like a couple of phones from LG, however that is the exception, not the norm.

 

The notch isn't great, but it's really not that bad. It's a stopgap while we wait for under display cameras to become good enough to make it to devices; something which should be happening this year. Apple's is the worse, yes, but phones with hole punches or small notches in the middle really aren't that bad.

 

Modern phones are pathetic? Right, with their exceptional cameras, 3x improvement to battery life while being smaller in stature, amazing looking, high refresh rate displays, gobs of storage, biometrics, stereo speakers....they're really awful compared to what we had 10 years ago. /s

 

2 hours ago, Vishera said:

Yeah,using a jack stand on a bus or road trip is totally logical and practical.

It's convenient to just swap the battery if you are in a place you can't charge,

Also when the time to replace the battery comes you will have to cut the glue,remove the glass without breaking it,and remove the glued battery without bending it.

Now you have to glue it back together and hope you didn't mess it up.

Seems like phones nowdays are made to be disposable.

Most companies offer battery replacement for about $50 - $80, which isn't that far off the price that you would have paid for a replacement battery 10 years ago.

Considering that includes the labor costs, it's really not a bad deal. Want it cheaper? You can likely find a third party that would do it for less.

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

Hmm,isn't a power bank a big battery too?...
And how will i use my studio headphones with that?,They have superior sound quality to any Bluetooth headphones out there.

Also you can use Bluetooth on old phones as well.

There were phones that felt premium back then but not much,for example the LG V20:

If you have studio headphones your phone isn't going to be a great companion for them anyway.

1 hour ago, seapriestess said:

Really wish my S4 note wasnt locked to AT&T. I really miss using it as my daily. I would give anything for an unlocked one with a battery expansion case. Would install lineage OS and it would run good as new.

Older phones really were the best.

You should be able to get it unlocked, if you really want to use something that old.

You can easily get newer phones with better battery life though.

1 hour ago, Murasaki said:

Despite all of what was pointed out at the end of the day after all the complaining, im fine with it. Though I wish more smaller phones existed in this sea of 6' flat bricks that barely fit in my pockets.

You must have some skin tight, oddly proportioned pants.

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

How can you puncture a battery that is shielded with thick plastic layer and has a protective case in addition?

Also i am certain that those older designs of smartphones batteries had power control circuitry attached,because we already carried them around like that at that era.

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Those were so thick, they'd be an absolute pain to carry around. A battery bank can be a lot slimmer, safer to carry, and if you purchase the right one, can charge the phone pretty quickly. You can also use it while you charge, so the whole "instant swap" argument really doesn't stand up.

37 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Can you charge and use wired headphones at the same time?...

With a wireless battery bank, absolutely.


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2 hours ago, seapriestess said:

Really wish my S4 note wasnt locked to AT&T

What does that mean?

so you can only use AT&T simcards?

 

that‘s criminal in my opinion 


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3 hours ago, Murasaki said:

Despite all of what was pointed out at the end of the day after all the complaining, im fine with it. Though I wish more smaller phones existed in this sea of 6' flat bricks that barely fit in my pockets.

You mean like my Sonim XP8 that weighs in at just under a pound? (A third of that weight is the replaceable 4900mAh Li-Ion battery) 😛

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Alas.... the phone is nearly bulletproof...

 

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3 hours ago, PeachGr said:

 If you don't like nitch then hide it, you can via software

This is kind of a redicilous argument, as you're still paying for that extra large screen that you're not using. Other than that I'd agree though.

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I clicked the past and expected to see flip phones or thicc briccs but all I got was overpriced, overrated samsung junk that would shatter even when falling off your bed.

 

Think I'll keep my K790 until some hipster decides physical keyboards are cool again and every company starts releasing phones with real keys again. There's no point in replacing it though, it works just fine, it's enough for what I do which is call and send some texts, use bluetooth with my computer and play some music

 

why would I spend $600 or $1000 on something that can do exactly the same? because everyone else has one?

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49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

For example, removable batteries. Sure, they were ok back in the day when screens were small, and we had to have thicker devices. The battery life on phones back then was also pretty bad, so it was handy to have a removable battery. However, fast forward to today. Screens are significantly larger, and the phones are thinner. Phones would have to be significantly thicker to accommodate a replaceable battery;

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49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Headphone jacks are becoming more and more obsolescent on mobile devices as BT headphones become cheaper, more compact, and better sounding.

Bluetooth headphones are pretty expensive,and with the latency of Bluetooth it won't sound better than cable...

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

A phone can't power decent headphones properly

Citation needed.

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

The notch isn't great, but it's really not that bad.

Are you sure?:

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49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

3x improvement to battery life while being smaller in stature

Citation needed

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

amazing looking

The LG v20 doesn't look good?,the Note Edge doesn't look good?

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49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

gobs of storage

Do you really need 1TB of storage for just a phone?,

Also phones back in the day had Micro SD card slots for storage expansion.

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

exceptional cameras

Only a few have a good camera,My old Samsung camera from 12 years ago is way better than most of the phones currently in the market.

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

high refresh rate displays, biometrics

Gimmicks

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

If you have studio headphones your phone isn't going to be a great companion for them anyway.

It works great

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Those were so thick, they'd be an absolute pain to carry around.

They are barely thicker than the batteries we have now.

 

49 minutes ago, dizmo said:

With a wireless battery bank, absolutely.

The dongle life...no thanks.


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52 minutes ago, dizmo said:

You must have some skin tight, oddly proportioned pants.

To be completely fair, larger phones can be a bit of a pain in the ass to keep in a pocket, especially when you're driving. I'd rather not look like I'm a boog larper by wearing cargo pants to carry a phone.


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Oh wow... 6 pictures of the Note 4 and all of a sudden all modern phones are pathetic? That's your evidence? 


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