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Marshallhoff02

i3-9100F vs Ryzen 3 3200G

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Budget (including currency): $350, $400 max. US Dollars

Country: Wisconsin, United States.

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Office use, mostly accounting, no gaming.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): All peripherals already accounted for, evaluate PC Hardware only.

 

So I'm looking at building a PC that will be used for accounting/general office work, so pretty basic stuff. It will be replacing an old Windows 7 PC, and will hopefully be usable for the next 10 years (offices never upgrade, lol). I know the LTT people are generally only interested in gaming stuff, but any input you have would be great!

I'm trying to decide between a Ryzen 3 3200G for $95USD https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-3200G-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B07STGHZK8/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=ryzen+3&qid=1597421148&s=pc&sr=1-2

Paired with a Gigabyte A320M for $55USD https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GA-A320M-S2H-MicroATX-Realtek-Motherboard/dp/B079NYQQJJ/ref=sr_1_11?

And this Intel Core i3-9100F bundle for $150 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08BPJBB8F/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

It seems to me that the i3 is going to be better, but I could be wrong?

The rest of the build:

Corsair Vengence 16GB Kit https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0143UM4TC/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_4?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

WD Blue 250GB M.2 SSD https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073SBV3XX/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_5?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

Thermaltake Smart 500W https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014W3EM2W/ref=twister_B08DZ2QHJZ?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Fractal Design Core 1100 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NPIL6GQ/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_6?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

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Are you getting a graphics card with this build? the 9100F doesn't have integrated graphics so you'll have to add in the price of a GPU. But the 9100F from a purely CPU standpoint is better than the 3200G.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Darpyface said:

Are you getting a graphics card with this build? the 9100F doesn't have integrated graphics so you'll have to add in the price of a GPU. But the 9100F from a purely CPU standpoint is better than the 3200G.

Thanks, I completely overlooked that. I was intending on using Integrated Graphics. So then the question becomes, is it worth the extra $55 for a GT 710 (really bad card I know, but it is cheap AF) https://www.amazon.com/MSI-GT-710-2GD3-LP/dp/B01DOFD0G8/ref=sr_1_3? And going with the i3, or is the Ryzen 3 good enough? I'm thinking the Ryzen 3 is probably enough for the use case.

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Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 | ASUS Strix Z390-F |G.Skill Trident Z Neo (2x16GB, 3200MHz CL14) | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" (i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe)

Peripherals: Ducky Shine 7 (Cherry MX Brown) | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Displays: Alienware AW2521HF & BenQ BL2420PT

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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, Avocheeseado said:

Thanks, that is definitely a build I'd considered, it is $80 more (that $46 ram price doesn't arrive till Nov. It is $59 w/ prime).

I will for sure swap out my WD SSD for that Crucial one, it is WAY better for the price.

What are your thoughts on ASRock mobos? I've heard mixed things.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

This is almost exactly the 3200G build i've been considering. I will NOT be buying a Silicon Power SSD for $46 when I can get a Crucial for $42 or a WD for $44.

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23 minutes ago, Marshallhoff02 said:

I will NOT be buying a Silicon Power SSD for $46 when I can get a Crucial for $42 or a WD for $44.

Why is that? The Crucial P2 is trash and the WD Blue is SATA. Not that SATA is going to be noticeably slower, but still, I don't get it.


Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 | ASUS Strix Z390-F |G.Skill Trident Z Neo (2x16GB, 3200MHz CL14) | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" (i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe)

Peripherals: Ducky Shine 7 (Cherry MX Brown) | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Displays: Alienware AW2521HF & BenQ BL2420PT

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1 minute ago, Marshallhoff02 said:

Thanks, that is definitely a build I'd considered, it is $80 more (that $46 ram price doesn't arrive till Nov. It is $59 w/ prime).

I will for sure swap out my WD SSD for that Crucial one, it is WAY better for the price.

What are your thoughts on ASRock mobos? I've heard mixed things.

That motherboard I have listed is amazing for the price, and is much better than any other similarly priced boards. Most of ASRocks boards are great, its just the lower end b450 hdv and a320 ones which are not very good.

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Posted (edited) · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Why is that? The Crucial P2 is trash and the WD Blue is SATA. Not that SATA is going to be noticeable slower, but still, I don't get it.

Is the P2 really that bad? Storage reliability is the most important aspect of this build, that's why I was willing to go with a SATA WD that I trust over a cheap NVME. I might just have to spend the extra money and go with a 970 EVO though.

 

Obviously everything is backed up, but the downtime of a failed part isn't worth it.

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5 minutes ago, Marshallhoff02 said:

Is the P2 really that bad? Storage reliability is the most important aspect of this build, that's why I was willing to go with a SATA WD that I trust over a cheap NVME. I might just have to spend the extra money and go with a 970 EVO though.

 

Obviously everything is backed up, but the downtime of a failed part isn't worth it.

The P2 is QLC which is slower than a TLC drive like the A80, and NVMe drives are reliable enough now that it's very unlikely for it to fail and it's easy to install a new one.

 

12 minutes ago, Marshallhoff02 said:

I will NOT be buying a Silicon Power SSD for $46 when I can get a Crucial for $42 or a WD for $44.

A $2 difference is almost nothing, and a NVMe drive will be way faster than any SATA drive

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1 minute ago, Darpyface said:

The P2 is QLC which is slower than a TLC drive like the A80, and NVMe drives are reliable enough now that it's very unlikely for it to fail and it's easy to install a new one.

 

A $2 difference is almost nothing, and a NVMe drive will be way faster than any SATA drive

Looks like the P2 is DRAM-less too, so that's not great. I'd heard a lot of shit about Silicon Power awhile back, but with both of you recommending it I'll give em a chance, it is quite a bit less then a 970.

 

Here is my new list then.

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1 hour ago, Marshallhoff02 said:

Looks like the P2 is DRAM-less too, so that's not great. I'd heard a lot of shit about Silicon Power awhile back, but with both of you recommending it I'll give em a chance, it is quite a bit less then a 970.

 

Here is my new list then.

3400g is much better  and it has 4 more thread too. can you get that instead?

 

Edit: 400 is your max so 3400g isn't going to fit. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
53 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

3400g is much better  and it has 4 more thread too. can you get that instead?

 

Edit: 400 is your max so 3400g isn't going to fit. 

I'll see about talking it up, the 3400G should put me at about $425. I work for a small Newspaper group and in addition to my role as a copy-editor, I am also the technology person. Our accounting and subscriptions at each paper are the only two windows PCs they use, we do everything else on macs. Now that this PC is up to be replaced I am encouraging them to have me build one because I hate repairing off the shelf ones. For instance we recently had another accounting PC's PSU go out, and I had to buy a brand new computer because it was going to take 2 weeks for the proprietary PSU to arrive by mail. 

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