Posted August 12, 2020 Specs: 10900k Asus Extreme mobo 1200watt plat PSU I purchased this kit from Gskillz (F4-4000C17Q-32GTZR). It is 4000mhz and it has a timing of 17 17 17 37 @1.35v (produced in 2018). This kit can't overclock even if I change the voltage to 1.50v. I tried it at 4000 and 3600mhz with no good, so I let it run at 2933mhz, Some guys suggested to change some settings other settings other than the ram volt, but I am really after using auto OCing from the XMP. This kit wasn't listed compatible on the mobo's ram website. PS, I tried the same kit in another pack and I got the same result. There is another ram kit very similar to it, but it was listed compatible with the mobo according to Asus's website. This kit from Gskillz (F4-4000C15Q-32GTZR). Same frequency but it has a tighter timing of 15 15 15 36 @ 1.50v (produced in March 2020). I really think that if I buy the second kit, the xmp still won't work because I don't think that these 2 ram kits differ in components. So are there differences other than the timing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 Author Also, both kits show that they are compatible with the mobo on the Gkillz website, that's rubbish... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 don't worry about qvl lists for the most part. update the bios, and try setting the vccio and sa voltage to 1.1-.2 and check, and then try 3200 with xmp/docp and wokr your way up to 4000. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 Author Also, they are both Samsung bdie, and I don't think that Samsung bdie produced in 2018 will differ with the ones produced in 2020.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said: don't worry about qvl lists for the most part. update the bios, and try setting the vccio and sa voltage to 1.1-.2 and check, and then try 3200 with xmp/docp and wokr your way up to 4000. yeah but why wouldn't the xmp work? if it was listed compatible then why doesn't work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 10 hours ago, LOD_ismynightmare said: yeah but why wouldn't the xmp work? technically anything over 2933 is not guaranteed. but the imc should handle it just fine. updating the bios helps with ram compatibility, and since this is a new platform, a bios update will probably help a lot. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, LOD_ismynightmare said: yeah but why wouldn't the xmp work? if it was listed compatible then why doesn't work? Try Asus Tweak Mode 1 under the timings menu. Edit: Also try setting the DRAM ratio to 100:133. BabyBlu (Primary): CPU: Intel Core i9 9900K @ up to 5.3GHz, 5.0GHz all-core, delidded Motherboard: Asus Maximus XI Hero RAM: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 4x8GB DDR4-3200 @ 4000MHz 16-18-18-34 GPU: MSI RTX 2080 Sea Hawk EK X, 2070MHz core, 8000MHz mem Case: Phanteks Evolv X Storage: XPG SX8200 Pro 2TB, 3x ADATASU800 1TB (RAID 0), Samsung 970 EVO Plus 500GB PSU: Corsair HX1000i Display: MSI MPG341CQR 34" 3440x1440 144Hz Freesync, Dell S2417DG 24" 2560x1440 165Hz Gsync Cooling: Custom water loop (CPU & GPU), Radiators: 1x140mm(Back), 1x280mm(Top), 1x420mm(Front) Keyboard: Corsair Strafe RGB (Cherry MX Brown) Mouse: MasterMouse MM710 Headset: Corsair Void Pro RGB OS: Windows 10 Pro Roxanne (Wife Build): CPU: Intel Core i7 4790K @ up to 5.0GHz, 4.8Ghz all-core, relidded w/ LM Motherboard: Asus Z97A RAM: G.Skill Sniper 4x8GB DDR3-2400 @ 10-12-12-24 GPU: EVGA GTX 1080 FTW2 w/ LM Case: Corsair Vengeance C70, w/ Custom Side-Panel Window Storage: Samsung 850 EVO 250GB, Samsung 860 EVO 1TB, Silicon Power A80 2TB NVME PSU: Corsair AX760 Display: Samsung C27JG56 27" 2560x1440 144Hz Freesync Cooling: Corsair H115i RGB Keyboard: GMMK TKL(Kailh Box White) Mouse: Glorious Model O- Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7 OS: Windows 10 Pro BigBox (HTPC): CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D Motherboard: Gigabyte B550i Aorus Pro AX RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8GB DDR4-3600 @ 3600MHz 14-14-14-28 GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads Case: Fractal Design Node 202 Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14 Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR) Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15 Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4 Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB) Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup. OS: Windows 10 Pro Harmonic (NAS/Game/Plex/Other Server): CPU: Intel Core i7 6700 Motherboard: ASRock FATAL1TY H270M RAM: 64GB DDR4-2133 GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530 Case: Fractal Design Define 7 HDD: 3X Seagate Exos X16 14TB in RAID 5 SSD: Inland Premium 512GB NVME, Sabrent 1TB NVME Optical: BDXL WH14NS40 flashed to WH16NS60 PSU: Corsair CX450 Display: None Cooling: Noctua NH-U14S Keyboard/Mouse: None OS: Windows 10 Pro NAS: Synology DS216J 2x8TB WD Red NAS HDDs in RAID 1. 8TB usable space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 Author Just now, TofuHaroto said: technically anything over 2933 is not guaranteed. but the imc should handle it just fine. updating the bios helps with ram compatibility, and since this is a new platform, a bios update will probably help a lot. alright man thanks for the advice, I think ill do it even though I hate updating BIOS's... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 10 hours ago, LOD_ismynightmare said: I think ill do it even though I hate updating BIOS's... if you want, you could still try setting the vccio and sa voltage, and try with one stick at a time and check, if non of those worked, you could try updating the bios. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 Author the vccio and sa were set to auto and the vccio is bove 1.2 (vccio around 1.29) and the sa above 1.1. I was able to get a stable system performance at 3200mhz @1.35v while gaming. I think I need more time testing this frequency. It is strange that you don't get the advertised speed even if your motherboard is compatible with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, LOD_ismynightmare said: was able to get a stable system performance at 3200mhz @1.35v while gaming. You could try with one stick at a time and check as well. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 If that's 4 stick kit, that may be the issue. So if you enjoy overclock, run only 2 sticks. With all 4 sticks, try 19-19-19-39 2TCR and see if that helps with higher frequency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 1 hour ago, LOD_ismynightmare said: the vccio and sa were set to auto and the vccio is bove 1.2 (vccio around 1.29) and the sa above 1.1. I was able to get a stable system performance at 3200mhz @1.35v while gaming. I think I need more time testing this frequency. It is strange that you don't get the advertised speed even if your motherboard is compatible with... i'm positive the problem is in ur bios settings and the the ram/mobo/cpu itself, unfortunately ram oc isn't something that can be remote. The 2020 kits are tighter bins than the 2018 ones, i wouldn't recommend mixing them with 2018 kits, get ur current kit to run at stock specs first before spending anymore money imo try 17 17 17 37 2T 1.4v vram 1.2v io/sa, and use 2 sticks, 4 sticks aren't guaranteed for anything 4000+ my best guess with ur 2933 setting was io/sa being at 1v or something with an older bios. 5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc) 1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW 9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll 6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 Author 2 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said: If that's 4 stick kit, that may be the issue. So if you enjoy overclock, run only 2 sticks. With all 4 sticks, try 19-19-19-39 2TCR and see if that helps with higher frequency. sorry, but what is 2TCR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, LOD_ismynightmare said: sorry, but what is 2TCR? 2T Command Rate. (CR) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted August 12, 2020 Author Upon inspection on CPU-Z, it shows that only one ram is XMP capable (the last one), and the first 3 aren't. So, I manually adjusted the first 3 to match the last one. But their values are still the same on CPU-Z, they didn't change just like the photo im showing before and after OCing, they are the same. What I get now is 17 17 17 37 @1.35v 4000mhz. Does this mean that Gskillz is not guaranteed to sell XMP ready rams? That would be silly if they did that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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