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Ryzen 2600x or 3100

The 2600x has two extra cores,4 extra threads and better single threaded performance as it is an 'X' variant. The 3100 would be a downgrade imo. 

 

As for overclocking,Ryzen isn't really known for a high oc headroom,so I don't think any of the CPUs are good at high overclocking

 

Edit:The video you've posted is a regular 2600 vs a 3100 not a 2600x as you've mentioned

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Hey everyone,

 

Just wanted to hear people's opinion. I have a system where I can switch out my Ryzen 5 2600x with a Ryzen 3 3100. There is no cost analysis involved here. The question is: entirely from a benefit point-of-view: which CPU should I use?

 

The system is curently being used as a home theatre and gaming PC, so it never does any productivity tasks. In the future, I may use it as a typical work and gaming system but my career path doesn't involve anything other than research and writing. I may have it run a Minecraft server at some point but I am not sure if I will ever actually have time for that. Finally, so you don't have to ask, I currently don't stream either and don't think I ever will.

 

I do enjoy overclocking and so if the 3100 has better overclocking potential, that would be something I consider an advantage. So far, my 2600x has dissapointed me as far as overclocking goes (maybe I lost the silicon lottery).


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The 2600X is better in basically everything. It is basically the same speed single threaded and way faster multi threaded. There's no reason to upgrade. I would only upgrade for a 3600 or better.

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20 minutes ago, Darpyface said:

The 2600X is better in basically everything. It is basically the same speed single threaded and way faster multi threaded. There's no reason to upgrade. I would only upgrade for a 3600 or better.

See the reason I asked is because of this video (and others like it). It shows that it is not the case. If the 2600x was better at everything, it would be an easy choice.


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6 minutes ago, DutchGuyTom said:

See the reason I asked is because of this video (and others like it). It shows that it is not the case. If the 2600x was better at everything, it would be an easy choice.

That's a 2600 non-X, the X version that you have is faster in single threaded applications that make it faster than the 3100.

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Keep in mind that none of that matters when gauging the maximum potential in single threaded performance - in which case your typical 3100 will overclock and be faster at gaming than the 2600 in many games.


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The 2600x has two extra cores,4 extra threads and better single threaded performance as it is an 'X' variant. The 3100 would be a downgrade imo. 

 

As for overclocking,Ryzen isn't really known for a high oc headroom,so I don't think any of the CPUs are good at high overclocking

 

Edit:The video you've posted is a regular 2600 vs a 3100 not a 2600x as you've mentioned

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3 minutes ago, Darpyface said:

That's a 2600 non-X, the X version that you have is faster in single threaded applications that make it faster than the 3100.

True, but my 2600x only overclocks to a max 4.2GHz all-core which is what the 2600 is running at in the video.


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Just now, DutchGuyTom said:

True, but my 2600x only overclocks to a max 4.2GHz all-core which is what the 2600 is running at in the video.

If you're on a TV any difference in performance probably won't be perceptible since your tv is probably 60hz anyway


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3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

If you're on a TV any difference in performance probably won't be perceptible since your tv is probably 60hz anyway

For sure, and I think that I will stick with the 2600x. Just want to be absolutely sure since the 3100 seems to do pretty well in games and I've heard it overclocks well.


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1 minute ago, DutchGuyTom said:

True, but my 2600x only overclocks to a max 4.2GHz all-core which is what the 2600 is running at in the video.

Even in that video the CPU is only getting 5 fps more, that is a tiny amount and to get it to turbo like that constantly probably means it's clock stretching. The longevity of having 2 extra cores, and already having everything working and not having to spend money on it, makes more sense to go for the 2600X.

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11 minutes ago, Abhayy said:

Ryzen isn't really known for a high oc headroom

Thought for a sec you said AMD isnt known for OCs. 


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I woudn't go from a 2600X to a 3100. You are loosing 2 cores (4 threads) for an increase of performance that it's not worth the purchase. As it seems you are not having an issue with your computer, you can at least wait to next gen Ryzen and then decide if you want to change the CPU.

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19 hours ago, DutchGuyTom said:

So far, my 2600x has dissapointed me as far as overclocking goes (maybe I lost the silicon lottery).

well the 3100 is better in most cases unless the workload is purely multi threaded. 

if you already have a 2600x, keep it, the 3100 isn't much of an upgrade.


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3600/3700X is what I'd consider an upgrade from your 2600X.

The 3100 is better strictly when it comes to gaming now, but it's not a large enough difference to warrant buying it, especially if you don't care about high refresh rate 1080p (100Hz+).


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