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Toshiba has Left the Laptop Market

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Summary

 Toshiba has sold their remaining shares in their laptop business Dynabook. Dynabook was originally called Toshiba Client Solutions Co., Ltd and brought the very first mass produced laptop computer (the T1100) to market.

 In June 2018, Toshiba sold 80.1% of the company to Sharp but kept the remaining 18.9%. They sold because they were having difficulty selling products and needed money after an accounting scandal. However, this past week, Toshiba sold the remaining shares. As far as I can tell, the amount and reasons are still unknown.

 

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TOKYO—Toshiba Corporation (TOKYO: 6502) hereby announces that it has transferred the 19.9% of the outstanding shares in Dynabook Inc. that it held to Sharp Corporation. As a result of this transfer, Dynabook has become a wholly owned subsidiary of Sharp.

Under the terms of a June 2018 share purchase agreement between Toshiba and Sharp, Toshiba transferred to Sharp 80.1% of the outstanding shares of Toshiba Client Solutions Co., Ltd (hereinafter TCS), then Toshiba’s wholly owned subsidiary in the personal computer business. That transfer closed in October 2018, and TCS changed its name to Dynabook in January 2019. On June 30, 2020, under the terms of the share purchase agreement, Sharp exercised a call option for the remaining outstanding shares of Dynabook held by Toshiba, and Toshiba has completed procedures for their transfer.

(Toshiba News Release)

 

My thoughts

 I have never heard of Dynabook previous to this. Looking at their website though, it seems that the majority of laptops they sell are pretty outdated. Based on that, I cant say I am surprised Toshiba is selling this portion of their business. Am I the only one whose never heard of Dynabook before or are they are small, mostly unknown brand?

 

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 Tom's Hardware

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that's a shame. i have a toshiba laptop from 2010 lying around. it's been disassembled probably 5 times, has had the screen swapped with a display from a completely different laptop but by some miracle it fit, the screen itself is held together with tape and glue, it's missing it's battery, it's been dropped from a table by the previous owner on to a stone floor (the reason i had to swap the screen, the original one was smashed), etc... 

 

and yet, it still works just fine, i even made a review of it. 

 


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1 minute ago, Ashley xD said:

i have a toshiba laptop from 2010 lying around

Now that I think about it, I have seen their old laptops that have Toshiba branding just none that have the new Dynabook name.


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I haven't seen a Toshiba laptop in forever.  I've seen their SSD and HDD models though!

 

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19 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

Summary

 Toshiba has sold their remaining shares in their laptop business Dynabook. Dynabook was originally called Toshiba Client Solutions Co., Ltd and brought the very first mass produced laptop computer (the T1100) to market.

 In June 2018, Toshiba sold 80.1% of the company to Sharp but kept the remaining 18.9%. They sold because they were having difficulty selling products and needed money after an accounting scandal. However, this past week, Toshiba sold the remaining shares. As far as I can tell, the amount and reasons are still unknown.

 

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My thoughts

 I have never heard of Dynabook previous to this. Looking at their website though, it seems that the majority of laptops they sell are pretty outdated. Based on that, I cant say I am surprised Toshiba is selling this portion of their business. Am I the only one whose never heard of Dynabook before or are they are small, mostly unknown brand?

 

Sources

 Toshiba News Release

 Tom's Hardware

 TECHSPOT

god I haven't seen Toshiba sell laptops at US retailers for years. Never heard of Dynabook either.


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2 minutes ago, Techstorm970 said:

HDDs?  OH GOD, MY EYES!!!  SHOW ME A SEAGATE BEFORE I GO BLIND!!!

What do you have against their hdds? I have a 4tb x300 and it has been quite good.


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3 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

What do you have against their hdds? I have a 4tb x300 and it has been quite good.

I had one that was very slow (compared to the Seagate and WD drives I was used to) and started having problems after 2 years.


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13 minutes ago, pinksnowbirdie said:

god I haven't seen Toshiba sell laptops at US retailers for years. Never heard of Dynabook either.

they might sell more in japan because that's where they're based? random guess though. 


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Just now, Ashley xD said:

they might sell more in japan because that's where they're based? random guess though. 

that's possible lol

I just remember when they used to sell them here.


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They probably sold their holdings because Toshiba Laptops just don't sell very well. At least in the states. Also the market for laptops has shifted a lot towards premium ultrabooks....and premium designs and materials is just not something that Toshiba had been known for. 


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Stupidly moot and almost irrelevant anecdote here, but the only Toshiba laptops I have had any experience with were either average or very sluggish for the given spec.  

 

 


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Wasn't really surprised. It feels like Toshiba started out strong, but eventually got beaten in the categories it once defined and never really figured out how to recover. Ultraportables were a particular sore point. The Portege line was nice... up until the MacBook Air and ultrabooks arrived, and Toshiba was no longer the most compelling pick for thin-and-light laptops.

 

I also can't help but think that Toshiba's obsession with giant desktop replacement laptops was an issue. Yeah, that chunky 17-inch Qosmio is fine if you just want a desktop that happens to move, but it's pretty lousy as a portable machine. The market moved to easier-to-carry designs, and Toshiba didn't do a great job of following.

 

Sharp is technically keeping the spirit of Toshiba alive, but this does feel like a further contraction of the Windows PC market. It's hard to survive if you're not a giant OEM like Dell, HP or Lenovo.

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10 hours ago, pinksnowbirdie said:

god I haven't seen Toshiba sell laptops at US retailers for years. Never heard of Dynabook either.

Same, not touched a Toshiba in a long time and also never heard of Dynabook. Wonder how that business is actually going, maybe they are big in some other market.

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Heh, I remember playing Space Cadet Pinball on my mom's Toshiba netbook running XP.

 

 

I didn't realize Toshiba was still around though, I thought they stopped making laptops years ago...


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9 hours ago, mr moose said:

Stupidly moot and almost irrelevant anecdote here, but the only Toshiba laptops I have had any experience with were either average or very sluggish for the given spec.  

Toshiba used to be part of the TELA scheme for teachers, don't remember what it standard for it but it's the government purchasing scheme for laptops used by teachers. The chargers were crap and the cables kept splitting and fraying, horrible things, glad they got dropped as an option.

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My friend still dailies her 1st gen Core i3 Toshiba notebook, it's the only computer in their house and is more than powerful enough for their needs. They're complaining about it getting slow so once I get a chance to pop over I'll upgrade it to an SSD and it'll be like a brand new machine.

 

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48 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Same, not touched a Toshiba in a long time and also never heard of Dynabook. Wonder how that business is actually going, maybe they are big in some other market.

Dynabook was a Toshiba laptop brand initially focused on Japan. With the whole Sharp handover it's been used more widely.

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9 hours ago, Tech_Dreamer said:

please god, let lenovo be next.

thinkpads are the most reliable laptops ever

there e series is junk but p and t series is pretty good


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main HP compaq 8300 prebuilt - Intel i5-3470 - 14GB ram - 500GB HDD - bluray drive

old windows 7 gaming desktop - Intel i5 2400 - lenovo CIH61M V:1.0 - 4GB ram - 1TB HDD - 160GB HDD - MSI GT 710 - dual DVD roms 

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My work laptop here in Canada is a Toshiba but after we updated the bios earlier this year/late last year, the boot up splash says Dynabook. This must of been coming for awhile cause these updates are circa late last year.

 

All of our Toshiba laptops now say Dynabook in the bios and the bootup logo, all models going back a few years now. It seems some of the bios updates did absolutely nothing but change the logo from Toshiba to Dynabook...........

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15 hours ago, Techstorm970 said:

I haven't seen a Toshiba laptop in forever.  I've seen their SSD and HDD models though!

 

SSDs?  Love 'em!

HDDs?  OH GOD, MY EYES!!!  SHOW ME A SEAGATE BEFORE I GO BLIND!!!

 

14 hours ago, Techstorm970 said:

I had one that was very slow (compared to the Seagate and WD drives I was used to) and started having problems after 2 years.

The P/X/N and several others are actually more reliable than both WD and Seagate.   The 2 most reliable are HGST and Toshiba at a tie, and ironically, WD owns HGST.   <.<   You're comparing one against several models by them.  As for the speed, you probably had a slower laptop drive.


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| CPU:  Ryzen 9 3900x | CPU Cooler:  EKWB EK-AIO 360 D-RGB | Paste:  Kryonaut | Motherboard:  ASUS ROG x570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) | RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 | Boot Drive:  Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME | Storage Drives:  Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280+Western Digital WD Blue 2 TB 2.5"+Toshiba N300 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM+Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" | GPU:  ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP Extreme Core | Case:  Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL ROG Certified (Black) with Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack+4x Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 V2 Reds added | PSU:  EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply w/CableMod E-Series Cable Kit (Black/Red) | Case Fans:  2 Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans | Displays:  BenQ PD2700U 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz+Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz+MSI Optix MAG322CR 31.5" 1920x1080 180 Hz | Mouse:  Corsair M65 RGB ELITE | Keyboard:  Ducky Shine 7 Blackout - MK Exclusive First Release - RGB LED Double Shot PBT Mechanical Keyboard with Silent Red Switches | Mousepad:  Gaya Entertainment Oversized Gaming Mousepad Doom | Audio:  AKG K712 PRO Headphones+Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone+Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset+iBasso IT01 Dynamic Driver Audiophile In-Ear Monitors/Earbuds (Black)+Pair of Mackie MR624s(came with stands+isolation pads) | OS:  Windows 10 Pro |



Bifröst(ROG Zephyrus M GU502):

| CPU:  i7-9750h | RAM:  32GB Dual Channel 2666mhz CL 19(Stock+Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-21300, 2666MHZ, 260 PIN SODIMM, 1.2V, CL 19 ) | Storage:  1TB SSD with Optane | GPU:  Nvidia RTX 2060 | Display:  144hz 3ms | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro |

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15 hours ago, Techstorm970 said:

HDDs?  OH GOD, MY EYES!!!  SHOW ME A SEAGATE BEFORE I GO BLIND!!!

What about a WD drive? 


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My beautiful, but not that powerful, main PC:

My new PC I'm saving for:

  • NZXT H1 Matte Black
    • Comes with a 650W NZXT PSU
    • NZXT AIO
  • Ryzen 5 3600
  • MSI B450i GAMING PLUS AC
  • XPG ADATA 2800Mhz
  • RX480 untill I have more for a 2060 or 2070
  • 2tb Sabrent Rocket Q PCIE gen 3 NVME SSD
  • Samsung 470 128GB SATA SSD
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