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Another Challenger Enters the Ring - Twitter in Talks with ByteDance to Purchase TikTok

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   In the past few days, Twitter has had preliminary talks with ByteDance about buying their social media platform TikTok. Until now, the only other company looking to buy was Microsoft. The deal may only be for TikTok's business in North America and not internationally.

  The biggest issue for Twitter is their lack of funds. With TikTok being worth an estimated 15-50 Billion and Twitter being worth 29 Billion, Twitter would likely need additional investors in order to get the money needed to purchase the platform. However, their smaller size is also a benefit over Microsoft. Because they are a significantly smaller company, they would not have to go through anywhere near as many antitrust investigations as Microsoft would in order to purchase TikTok.

   On the other hand, TikTok has threatened legal action against Trump's executive order which is responsible for their ban. It is believed the lawsuit will be made as early as Tuesday and if successful, could mean that TikTok will stay and wont be sold to any other company.

 

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According to The Wall Street Journal, Twitter  and Bytedance have had preliminary talks about a merger of TikTok’s US operations with the publicly traded social media company. The Journal noted that Microsoft remains the front-runner for TikTok’s business in the US, Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and that a potential tie-up with Twitter would just be for TikTok’s North American business.

 

Any Twitter bid for Bytedance’s TikTok business would likely have to bolstered by additional investors, since TikTok is valued anywhere between $15 billion and $50 billion dollars — far too big a bite for Twitter, which has a market capitalization of $29 billion.

Last week, President Trump signed an executive order that would force the sale of TikTok’s US operations or face being banned. So Bytedance has to find a buyer before Sept. 15, or shut the business down in the US.

So far, Twitter and Microsoft  are the only reported bidders for Bytedance’s business, but others could emerge. And there’s the potential that any sale could be scuttled by lawsuits challenging the President’s executive order.

On Saturday, National Public Radio reported that TikTok is planning to do just that. The company will reportedly argue that the executive order from the President didn’t follow due process, and that its underlying argument that TikTok poses a national security threat is baseless, according to NPR.

(Tech Crunch)

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Microsoft, Apple, Google and Facebook have all been name-checked in the press as possible purchasers, and Microsoft has acknowledged it's pursuing a deal.

Trump and others say TikTok is a national security threat because it collects US users' data and its owner, ByteDance, is beholden to China's communist government. ByteDance has denied that the app presents any such threat.

It's unclear if Twitter will actually pursue a deal, the Journal said, citing anonymous sources. Microsoft is farther along in negotiations, the news outlet said, and being smaller, Twitter would have a tougher time raising enough money to buy the app.

A Microsoft-TikTok deal could be worth between $10 billion and $30 billion, depending on how much of TikTok the tech giant agreed to acquire, CNBC has reported. Twitter's market capitalization is approximately $29 billion and Microsoft's is over $1.6 trillion, the Journal noted.

But Twitter's smaller size could be an advantage, the social media company has reasoned, because it wouldn't be subject to the same level of antitrust scrutiny, the Journal said.

A marriage with TikTok wouldn't be Twitter's first foray into short videos. In 2012, the company bought startup Vine for $30 million, only to shut down Vine in 2016.

Both Twitter and TikTok declined to comment on the Journal report.

(CNET)

 

My thoughts

 I have a feeling that TikTok's lawsuit will be successful and they wont end up being banned from the US. But if one of these two companies does buy TikTok, I believe it will be Microsoft because they have easy access to the money needed while Twitter does not.

 

Sources

 Wall Street Journal

 Digital Trends

 Tech Crunch

 CNET

 The Verge


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Can we just let them die pls


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The company that destroyed Vine wants to buy TikTok? No thanks.

 

28 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Can we just let them die pls

I was like this before I tried it. While we've all seen TikToks that we don't like, it's way more diverse than you think. TikTok has been a great experience for me, and I've made some friends through it during a tough time.


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8 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

Can we just let them die pls

Yeah twitter can die. TikTok is great and the people bashing on it really have never used it. It's identical to what Vine would be in todays age. It spawned off from Music.ly that's why it has roots in doing dances and duets but in reality no one does that anymore except the main few who I genuinely don't understand how they are famous. 


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13 minutes ago, BuckGup said:

Yeah twitter can die. TikTok is great and the people bashing on it really have never used it. It's identical to what Vine would be in todays age. It spawned off from Music.ly that's why it has roots in doing dances and duets but in reality no one does that anymore except the main few who I genuinely don't understand how they are famous. 

really hated vine as well

 

my roommate loves showing me his favorite tik toks and I have not enjoyed a single one. not to mention the culture of sexualizing minors that's prevalent on the app. other than that, "regular" video form content can live anywhere, and doesn't need tik tok to be its home.


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3 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

really hated vine as well

 

my roommate loves showing me his favorite tik toks and I have not enjoyed a single one. not to mention the culture of sexualizing minors that's prevalent on the app. other than that, "regular" video form content can live anywhere, and doesn't need tik tok to be its home.

I mean I can't fix your type of humor lol. The sexualizing minor part is not new or exclusive to TikTok at all. That has been around since the start of recorded history and is all over Facebook, Instagram, 4chan, 8chan, Youtube especially, mySpace, NewGrounds, the bible, and so on. I think you're missing the point as you couldn't be famous on Youtube for posting the same content you do on TikTok. All the Vine stars like Logan Paul and David Dobrik have to make garbage filler content on Youtube or straight up filming dead bodies for children to get any kind of views like they were pulling on Vine.


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Ryzen 7 3800X | X570 Aorus Elite | G.Skill 16GB 3200MHz C16 | Radeon RX 5700 XT | Samsung 850 PRO 256GB | Mouse: Zowie S1 | OS: Windows 10

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