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i5 8600K with 3000 series nvidia?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi I currently have an i5 8600K (Delid 4.8ghz)

 

with a 1080ti (stock clock and undervolt)

and also 16gb of 3466mhz DDR4

mb Strix Z370-G

 

Would the i5 be a potential bottleneck for a new GPU?

I was thinking along the lines of a 3070 minimum maybe all the way up to a 3080ti

 

if so what would be the best upgrade money wise in the intel lineup?

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Depends on how CPU demanding upcoming titles are and how fast the next-gen GPUs will be, so we can't know for sure.

At the moment, your 8600K could likely bottleneck a 2080Ti in really CPU heavy titles like Battlefield 5.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

would even a 8700k be worth upgrading to? just for the hyperthreading

 

I'm not sure a 9900k would be too great for my current MB

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9 minutes ago, abgersaurus said:

would even a 8700k be worth upgrading to? just for the hyperthreading

 

I'm not sure a 9900k would be too great for my current MB

The 8700K would be an improvement, and a 9900K should probably work at stock speeds in your board, but I probably wouldn't look at either of these since even on the used market they'll be quite expensive.

I'd hold out a little longer to see what AMD's Zen 3 CPUs bring. If they're still not on par with Comet Lake for gaming (or the upcoming Rocket Lake, but who knows when that'll be revealed/released), then I'd go for a 10600K and good Z490 board, unless Intel will also have something new by then.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

but what about the 10600k vs the 10900k? would it not be worth getting the extra cores and threads for the future?

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3 minutes ago, abgersaurus said:

but what about the 10600k vs the 10900k? would it not be worth getting the extra cores and threads for the future?

not in that regard, no. to get those you have to make a platform change anyway so you might as well go for the less expensive option of a 3900x with 2c4t more than a 10900k, less heat output and better longevity on the X570 platform for the upcoming ryzen 4000 (zen3) desktop cpu's

 

at this point in time intel is not competitive and does not offer value for your money. speaking as a long-term intel user, i am switching to AMD the next upgrade cycle i make unless they come out of the blue with something that competes on performance and value


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1 minute ago, abgersaurus said:

but what about the 10600k vs the 10900k? would it not be worth getting the extra cores and threads for the future?

I mean, by the time you'll actually need 20 threads for gaming, we'll likely already be on DDR5. At the moment though, for gaming, the 10900K doesn't really offer anything that the 10600K doesn't.

Or if you do some content creation on the side, you could go with Ryzen, but again, I'd wait for Zen 3. Zen 2 would in most cases be a downgrade for you at the moment in gaming performance.


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2 hours ago, abgersaurus said:

but what about the 10600k vs the 10900k? would it not be worth getting the extra cores and threads for the future?

best upgrade right now is a 10600k/3600.

from what im seeing online, and from my personal experience, the 10600k is pretty much the gaming king right now. not too expensive and paired with a 2070/5600xt and above, you'd be clapping those frames.

nobody really needs those extra 4c and 8t. unless youre using the pc and an editing machine or you just want the best of the best, and in terms of bottlenecking, from what i see right now, i dont really see a 10600k bottlenecking a 3070 or a 3080 but idk about a 3080 ti.

if you get a good z490 motherboard, you could upgrade to a 10900k or even a 10850k if thoes are available, in a year or two after the prices will drop. this is actually what im planning to do. ill wait 2 years or so and if the prices would be reasonable, ill sell my 10600k and get a 10900k, and by doing that im saving 800 bucks and a new cpu/mb combo.


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3 hours ago, abgersaurus said:

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I got a friend with a 8600k, he's planning on upgrading to 3080 ti, use it for 2-3months with the 8600k, then upgrading to zen 3. Expecting massive bottlenekcs for AAA games though, if you are planning a 3080 ti and have to upgrade cpu now i can't say for sure even the 10600k will be enough, and zen 2 isn't really on the table, so it's down to 10700k or the 10900k, but due to the power efficiency of comet lake in general, my recommdation is to wait for zen 3 since the 8600k is serviceable.


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Posted · Original PosterOP

ok, well since my 8600K is at 4.8Ghz OC I was thinking if I got a 10600k and/or perhaps a 10900k later that they would also be OC'ed

 

that should have some say in regards to bottlenecks right? right now I'm using a 1440p 144hz monitor and was thinking of getting a 1440p (120-144hz) ultrawide

 

also a reverb G2 hence why the needed upgrade

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I would look at 1080p medium benchmarks on a 10600k vs 10900k with a 2080 ti, and compare them with the 1440p results.

 

If the 3080 ti is 33% faster than the 2080 ti then the delta between the 1440p and 1080p results on the 2080 ti (since 1440p is 33% more resolution than 1080p) can be equated to a simulated 33% uplift and give you an idea how these different CPUs may scale at 1440p with a 3080 ti.

 

Obviously this isn't a perfect scale as it's not linear and speculation, but if you look at 720p/1080 ti benchmarks from the past they are close to what 1080p benchmarks on the same CPUs with a 2080ti look like.


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