$1000 to uggrade my PC

[jgambar]

well the amount of ram I don't think is important ... the real dilemma is whether intel or ryzen and specifically which board to use for these

 

[Donut417]

24 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

Why so much? 2x8 kit @3600mhz, cuz 32 is no improvment for gsming. wait a month for r4, and a little longer for Big navi and Ampere.

The OP wants to run VM's and such. That could eat RAM. Keep in mind you really cant have too much ram. Especially if you use Chrome. 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

19 minutes ago, jgambar said:

well the amount of ram I don't think is important ... the real dilemma is whether intel or ryzen and specifically which board to use for these

 

Ryzen will hhave more cores/threads and will do great for multitasking and vms.. If you do VMs than stick to more ram. But R4000 is right around the corner, so wait to see intel lose more cpu ground. up to 20% IPC boost, baby!

[Helpful Tech Witch]

54 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I wouldn't get an AMD card. He wants ray tracing, and frankly their drivers are abysmal.

RDNA 2 will have ray tracing, too.

[Chris Pratt]

53 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I'd say spending more than you need to is dumb; B550 gives you nothing in return for the added cost other than PCIe 4.0, which no one really needs.

Which no one really needs... Today. B550 is an easy assured upgrade path to Zen 3, and a year or two down the line, we might be seeing GPUs that take advantage of PCIe 4.0. B450 will support Zen 3, too, but only with a one-way beta BIOS update. That's not exactly a recommended path; it's just a value add for existing B450 board owners. If this was someone with $200 in their pocket looking for a CPU and board upgrade, or wanting to do a $500 budget build, sure, B450 is the way to go. But, here, the OP has $1000 for upgrades burning a hole in their pocket, so recommending B450 is just stupid. Full stop.

[jgambar]

6 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

Which no one really needs... Today. B550 is an easy assured upgrade path to Zen 3, and a year or two down the line, we might be seeing GPUs that take advantage of PCIe 4.0. B450 will support Zen 3, too, but only with a one-way beta BIOS update. That's not exactly a recommended path; it's just a value add for existing B450 board owners. If this was someone with $200 in their pocket looking for a CPU and board upgrade, or wanting to do a $500 budget build, sure, B450 is the way to go. But, here, the OP has $1000 for upgrades burning a hole in their pocket, so recommending B450 is just stupid. Full stop.

I think this is the right way especially when I am looking for the best possible gaming performance and thinking about taking advantage of the purchase in the near future and not so much in the immediate future ... the idea is to spend these 1000 on the best CPU, board and cooling. .. and let's assume that I already have an RTX 2070 in my possession for this effect

 

[Chris Pratt]

3 minutes ago, jgambar said:

I think this is the right way especially when I am looking for the best possible gaming performance and thinking about taking advantage of the purchase in the near future and not so much in the immediate future ... the idea is to spend these 1000 on the best CPU, board and cooling. .. and let's assume that I already have an RTX 2070 in my possession for this effect

 

Well, if you're looking for the "best", that's X570. However, B550 kind of breaks the mold on the "budget" designation. There's B550 boards that are actually better than some X570s. The only real difference is the chipset PCIe lanes, which are 4.0 on X570, but limited to PCIe 3.0 on B550. However, you have 24 PCIe 4.0 CPU lanes to play with on either board, which is plenty for a GPU and a super fast NVMe, if you wanted. The chipset lanes only really start to matter if you're looking for dual GPUs or something, but SLI is dead at this point. Long and short, B550 is more than sufficient, unless you just happen to find a better deal on a decent X570, and then it's just a why not situation.

[HardStroke]

7 hours ago, jgambar said:

Hi everyone, I am new to these forums and I hope you can help me and advise me .. I want to upgrade my gamer PC which is already obsolete (phenom 2 x4 965BE 16GB) ... currently I only have 1000 dollars to do this renovation, where I just want to change board, CPU and memory.

 

In the course of 6 months or before I plan to invest another 1000 in the GPU maybe an RTX 2070 or 2080 .. .. but in the meantime my dilemma is that it is the best thing I can buy now (board, CPU and RAM) with these 1000 dollars .. for now I think I can handle the 8GB RX480 that I already have.

 

I am thinking of a core i7 10700x ($ 400), 32GB ram 2 * 16 3200 ($ 150 approx), this means that I have 450 dollars to invest in board and cooling ... and this is where my big dilemma is .. I am not interested in GRB lighting, I want quality and performance ... what do you recommend ??? Thank you.

we are getting really close to amds and nvidia new releases.

keep saving your money for now.

rtx 2070/s/2080/s/2080 ti are discontinued so getting them for a good price wont be very difficult but i think you should wait. 2000 dollars for a pc upgrade can get you a MAD pc if you just wait 1 or 2 months.

 

edit: 10700k for 400 dollars? where do you live?

[dizmo]

9 hours ago, BlueScope819 said:

Talking in general terms. He may want to save some money to use on a GPU later down the line.

He already has $1,000 for a GPU in the future. So it's pretty clear he's thought about his budget.

9 hours ago, Donut417 said:

They have gotten better over the years. You remember when they first bought ATI? GOD DAMN IT. Those drivers sucked bad. 

Yeahhhh kind of. Considering even this year they had drivers so bad that people were selling their 5700's because they simply wouldn't work, I won't suggest them, and they'd need 2 years of solid drivers without issues like that before I'd consider buying one myself. I just don't understand why they haven't put more effort into making solid drivers. Even a decade ago there were memes about their poor drivers.

9 hours ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

RDNA 2 will have ray tracing, too.

Yeah, but we don't know how it'll perform, and it doesn't negate poor drivers.

[Mateyyy]

If you're just gaming:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-10600KF 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor	$277.50 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory	$97.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.99 @ Newegg
Case	be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.90 @ Amazon
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.90 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$995.17
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-08 12:38 EDT-0400

Toss the RX 480 you currently have in there, then wait for Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs to launch and upgrade that then.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

56 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yeah, but we don't know how it'll perform, and it doesn't negate poor drivers.

That doesnt mean to not give it a chance

[dizmo]

7 minutes ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

That doesnt mean to not give it a chance

If I'm spending $400 - $600 on something, it sure does.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

25 minutes ago, dizmo said:

If I'm spending $400 - $600 on something, it sure does.

Umm.... I ment to see if its any good, not immediately assume that it's bad, even before it comes out.

[jgambar]

1 hour ago, TheTechWizardThatNeedsHelp said:

Umm.... I ment to see if its any good, not immediately assume that it's bad, even before it comes out.

I prefer to spend the money on something that already works and not speculate

[jgambar]

2 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

If you're just gaming:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-10600KF 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor	$277.50 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	$199.99 @ Best Buy
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 Memory	$97.99 @ Newegg
Storage	HP EX950 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$119.99 @ Newegg
Case	be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.90 @ Amazon
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.90 @ B&H
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$995.17
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-08 12:38 EDT-0400

Toss the RX 480 you currently have in there, then wait for Ampere and RDNA2 GPUs to launch and upgrade that then.

Thanks for the quote ... but I already have the ATX case, the SSD, the power source ... the idea is to spend the 1000 only on the best CPU, memory card and cooling 

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, jgambar said:

Thanks for the quote ... but I already have the ATX case, the SSD, the power source ... the idea is to spend the 1000 only on the best CPU, memory card and cooling 

What case, SSD and PSU do you have?

The 10600K offers everything that a 10700K/10900K does at the moment when it comes to gaming.

[jgambar]

the case is a thermaltake ATX I don't remember the reference .. the SSD is a Crucial 500MX-500GB and 2 HHD * 1TB, the power supply is a Thermaltake ToughPower 750W 80 Plus Gold