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Graphic card not powerful enough ?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello

 

Hope you all of you are doing fine in this testing times.

 

I would like some guidance on my graphic card. I just got a new custom pc build for me. Here are my specs.

 

CPU : Ryzen7 - 3700X upto 4.40 Ghz
CPU-Cooler : CM - Master Liquid ML240P Mirage
Motherboard : Gigabyte - B450 Aorus Elite
Graphics-Card : RTX2080 Super 8GB - Gigabyte-Windforce
SSD : Samsung - 500 GB (970 EVO PLUS) M.2 NVME
HDD : Seagate - Barracuda 1TB
RAM : 8x2 - Corsair Veng 16GB 3000
SMPS : Thermaltake - BX1 750W RGB
Case : CM - MB511 RGB
Wifi-Card : TPLink - TLWN881ND

 

Problem is I am getting low fps on my games. I run all my games on a 1080 p monitor.

Assasin creed odyssey : high setting 100 fps, ultra avg 72 fps

Dota 2 ultra: 138 fps 

Far cry 5 ultra 80 fps 

 

The benchmark numbers on various website show a lot more. Am I just being paranoid ? Or does there seem to a issue ? The temps stay at 80 deg after long gaming setion.

 

Thank you so much for the help

 

 

 

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try reinstalling any drivers you have. if you really want to, reinstall your os. if you are using userbenchmark, their numbers might be inaccurate


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Corsair H100i platinum

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RTX 2060

MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge wifi

NZXT H510

Samsung 860 EVO 500GB

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Corsair RM 750 Watt

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Razer Deathadder 2013

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3 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Okay will try it out first thing tomorrow. Thank a lot for your reply will keep you posted 😛

Make sure you use the quote button so that we see your responses.

 

Did you enable XMP in your motherboard's BIOS to make sure your ram is running at the right speed?


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3 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Okay will try it out first thing tomorrow. Thank a lot for your reply will keep you posted 😛

welcome to the forums ;)

remember to quote or mention the person you're replying so they'll get a notification @eeeee1


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9 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

RAM : 8x2 - Corsair Veng 16GB 3000

make sure they're installed on the 2nd and 4th slot from the left, as well as XMP/DOCP is enabled in bios

10 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Graphics-Card : RTX2080 Super 8GB - Gigabyte-Windforce

SSD : Samsung - 500 GB (970 EVO PLUS) M.2 NVME

Wifi-Card : TPLink - TLWN881ND

hmm... could it be pcie bandwidth related? unlikely though

 

is it possible to benchmark your cpu and gpu separately?

cpu can be done with cinebench

gpu can be done with 3dmark (and look at gpu score)


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I hate Intel's pricing, Ryzen's weird quirks, Nvidia's pricing, and Radeon GPUs in general

 

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Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

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be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
14 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

Make sure you use the quote button so that we see your responses.

 

Did you enable XMP in your motherboard's BIOS to make sure your ram is running at the right speed?

Yeah sure will do so. Sorry m new to the forums. And yes I did that. When I play Assassin creed odyssey my gpu usage is around 96% and cpu is around 50%. So I guess gpu is bottlenecking 

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19 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Problem is I am getting low fps on my games. I run all my games on a 1080 p monitor.

Assasin creed odyssey : high setting 100 fps, ultra avg 72 fps

Dota 2 ultra: 138 fps 

Far cry 5 ultra 80 fpss

 

Those numbers don't seem that far off. Look at these videos for example: link and link.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
10 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

make sure they're installed on the 2nd and 4th slot from the left, as well as XMP/DOCP is enabled in bios

hmm... could it be pcie bandwidth related? unlikely though

 

is it possible to benchmark your cpu and gpu separately?

cpu can be done with cinebench

gpu can be done with 3dmark (and look at gpu score)

Yes I have made changes in the bios regarding ram. Will try and benchmark cpu and gpu first thing tomorrow morning. But as stated above while playing odyssey the gpu goes upto 96 % usage and cpu is at 50%

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3 minutes ago, DutchGuyTom said:

Those numbers don't seem that far off. Look at these videos for example: link and link.

Yeah I am getting similar numbers. Just the benchmarking websites show arnd 15-20 % more fps then m getting that just got me worried a little. 

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5 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Yeah sure will do so. Sorry m new to the forums. And yes I did that. When I play Assassin creed odyssey my gpu usage is around 96% and cpu is around 50%. So I guess gpu is bottlenecking 

High GPU utilization is exactly what you want. It's not a "bottleneck". The term refers to other components preventing the GPU from maxing out. Some settings that are often left out of benchmark websites include some forms of antialiasing that are computationally heavy. 


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3 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Yeah I am getting similar numbers. Just the benchmarking websites show arnd 15-20 % more fps then m getting that just got me worried a little. 

sometimes benchmarkers have little to no background task running, and their setting might be slightly different from yours, thus the FPS disparity

GPU die also varies from card to card, boost differently from cooler to cooler, so there's another slight diffrence there


Things I need help with: *new* Need help from "G-sync Compatible" monitor owner(s)

Spoiler

 

 

I hate Intel's pricing, Ryzen's weird quirks, Nvidia's pricing, and Radeon GPUs in general

 

Products I like:

Spoiler

Sony Xperia Z1 / Z2 / 10 ii, Asus Strix 970 / 1070, Samsung SSD, WD HDD, Corsair PSUs (AX, RM, CX(grey)), GeForce GPU, NZXT N450/S340, be quiet! Coolers, G.Skill Trident RAM, Logitech M525, Logitech G440, Razer Deathadder Elite

 

Products I hate:

Spoiler

Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

Spoiler

be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

Companies I hate:

Spoiler

Nvidia, Intel, Apple, TMT (Thundermatch, a retailer)

 

Personal Blacklisted Companies:

Spoiler

Acer monitors, Gigabyte, Seagate HDD, Kingston SSD, Razer (except their mouse), XiaoMi Phones

 

Remember, just because I had good/bad experiences with these companies/product, doesn't mean you will have similar experiences too. I would still recommend these products if they made sense for your needs, but I'll add a disclaimer of my experience if it's relevant. Feel free to DM me asking why they are where they are.

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11 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Yeah I am getting similar numbers. Just the benchmarking websites show arnd 15-20 % more fps then m getting that just got me worried a little. 

If you want to be sure that your GPU is not underperforming, I highly recommend downloading 3DMark's demo on Steam and running TimeSpy. You can then compare scores online and that will show you the range of performance that the 2080 Super can achieve. It will provide a total score but you want to look specifically for your graphics score (although nothing wrong with checking to make sure your system runs as well as other 2080s/3700x systems).

 

The scores online, except for outliers, generally represents the range of performance you can expect. But do keep in mind that a lot of people overclock their PCs and they will be represented as well.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
24 minutes ago, RyzenDoctor said:

High GPU utilization is exactly what you want. It's not a "bottleneck". The term refers to other components preventing the GPU from maxing out. Some settings that are often left out of benchmark websites include some forms of antialiasing that are computationally heavy. 

Alright cool thanks for the help. I guess I was panicking a bit. Thanks a lot 

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21 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

sometimes benchmarkers have little to no background task running, and their setting might be slightly different from yours, thus the FPS disparity

GPU die also varies from card to card, boost differently from cooler to cooler, so there's another slight diffrence there

Ahh.. yeah true that. Thanks for all your help. Truly did help 

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11 minutes ago, DutchGuyTom said:

If you want to be sure that your GPU is not underperforming, I highly recommend downloading 3DMark's demo on Steam and running TimeSpy. You can then compare scores online and that will show you the range of performance that the 2080 Super can achieve. It will provide a total score but you want to look specifically for your graphics score (although nothing wrong with checking to make sure your system runs as well as other 2080s/3700x systems).

 

The scores online, except for outliers, generally represents the range of performance you can expect. But do keep in mind that a lot of people overclock their PCs and they will be represented as well.

Yeah I will give it a shot. Thanks for the suggestion.

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2 minutes ago, Allegro123 said:

Alright cool thanks for the help. I guess I was panicking a bit. Thanks a lot 

You should panic when you see the stupid thing sitting at 10-20% while running as a slide show.... God that happened to me in GTA online a year ago... bad driver installation


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