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Should I upgrade to Ryzen 3rd gen or switch to Intel?

I currently have a ryzen 7 1700x. I just got a used 2080 super from a buddy but I'm not noticing much fps improvement in certain games. I think perhaps my cou is the new bottleneck. With that being said, ryzen 3rd gen is compatible with my board so upgrading would be easy. However, is 3rd gen ryzen a big improvement or is Intel the way to go for gaming?

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6 minutes ago, Akimbo_Weaponry said:

I currently have a ryzen 7 1700x. I just got a used 2080 super from a buddy but I'm not noticing much fps improvement in certain games. I think perhaps my cou is the new bottleneck. With that being said, ryzen 3rd gen is compatible with my board so upgrading would be easy. However, is 3rd gen ryzen a big improvement or is Intel the way to go for gaming?

What's your budget? I'd suggest AMD since you already have a mobo. Can you tell me what mobo it is?

 

 

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Intel is technically better for gaming, but if you've already got the motherboard (if you're on Zen 1 I'm assuming you've either got an X370 or B350), I'd just throw in a 3600.

Before you run out and buy a new CPU though, is your RAM running in dual-channel, and did you use DDU to remove your old video drivers and then download and install the latest from Nvidia's website?

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Ryzen 7 3700X should be fine.
if you want to upgrade I'm recomending I7-9700K or 10700K
if you have enough budget just get Ryzen 9 3900X

Ryzen 9 3900X and I7-10700K should be fine for playing games

But since you have Ryzen compatible motherboard getting Ryzen 7 or 9 are better

 

Edit:

3700X and 3900x are better but it's expensive.

3600 are better for more budget build with only littlebit of performance drop.

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10 hours ago, Akimbo_Weaponry said:

, is 3rd gen ryzen a big improvement or is Intel the way to go for gaming?

intel is technically better for gaming, since you're already on am4, just get a 3600 and update the bios, which will be a huge upgrade at least in gaming. 

 

10 hours ago, Boonandboo said:

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wouldn't recommend  coffee lake if you're moving to a different platform. 

 

10 hours ago, Boonandboo said:

getting Ryzen 7 or 9 are better

why? a 3600 performs similarly in gaming. 

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1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

why? a 3600 performs similarly in gaming. 

3700X and 3900x are better but it's expensive.

3600 are better for more budget build.

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10 hours ago, Boonandboo said:

3600 are better for more budget build.

they will all perform similarly in gaming, games don't scale up to 8 cores. 

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Just now, TofuHaroto said:

games don't scale up to 8 cores. 

^^ 

Games only use 6 cores at the most so getting more than 6 for just gaming is just stupid waste of money

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12 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

they will all perform similarly in gaming, games don't scale up to 8 cores. 

 

11 minutes ago, Kanna said:

^^ 

Games only use 6 cores at the most so getting more than 6 for just gaming is just stupid waste of money

This is not exactly true. There are games like for example Assasins Creed Odyssey that are happy about more cores than 6. In many instances where the Avg. FPS doesn't increase, the minimum FPS does. Also the Ryzen 7 and 9 processors boost higher on single cores.

 

For gaming only i'd get a 3600 myself and not bother with the higher core models, however saying that the ryzen 7 and 9 processors offer no improvement at all is wrong. 

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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10 hours ago, Stahlmann98 said:

This is not exactly true.

and that's why i said "similarly", performance maybe better on the 8 and 12 core, but it's not huge and is differently not worth paying extra. 

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@OP

 

In your case it makes the most sense to get a R5 3600. This will definetly boost your gaming performance compared to a Ryzen 1st gen and you can currently get these for 170$ new.

If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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1 hour ago, Stahlmann98 said:

 

This is not exactly true. There are games like for example Assasins Creed Odyssey that are happy about more cores than 6. In many instances where the Avg. FPS doesn't increase, the minimum FPS does. Also the Ryzen 7 and 9 processors boost higher on single cores.

 

For gaming only i'd get a 3600 myself and not bother with the higher core models, however saying that the ryzen 7 and 9 processors offer no improvement at all is wrong. 

That's why I said at most it can improve in some games but not every game

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4 hours ago, Boonandboo said:

Ryzen 7 3700X should be fine.
if you want to upgrade I'm recomending I7-9700K or 10700K
if you have enough budget just get Ryzen 9 3900X

Ryzen 9 3900X and I7-10700K should be fine for playing games

But since you have Ryzen compatible motherboard getting Ryzen 7 or 9 are better

 

Edit:

3700X and 3900x are better but it's expensive.

3600 are better for more budget build with only littlebit of performance drop.

Basically zero performance drop.  There's no reason to get a Ryzen 7 or 9 for gaming.  On top of that, nobody has asked his motherboard model.  There's no guarantee that it will support the higher end chips properly.

 

@Akimbo_Weaponry What's your motherboard model?  You could have some VRM throttling.  Either way I wouldn't recommend getting anything past a 3600.  The X and XT models are basically the same, and you could just get throttled for worse performance if you get an 8 core CPU.

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1 minute ago, Akimbo_Weaponry said:

I have an asus crosshair VI

x370? that is decent but not the bets. it will handle ryzen 5 3600/3700x/3900x just fine.

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