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What's the pivotal factor that makes YOU upgrade your PC?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I only built my PC just over 2 1/2 years ago (my first custom build besides mining rigs) however it is no longer top-spec. 6 cores is measly and SSD's have become much faster. Although, I won't actually get too much of an actual performance increase if I upgraded and probably lose out on a bunch of money really. 

 

(Furthermore, when I first built it, it had a different motherboard and a 7700K instead but I changed that and then 2 weeks after I changed it, the 9900K got released 😬)

 

When is the 'optimal' time to upgrade for a high-end build? Do you wait until you have got full use out of the machine and things start to break or is there a specific time when you decide to upgrade?

 

Yes, I have a bit of money to spend, but I bet even even millionaires don't buy a new PC every 6 months. (I'm not a millionaire or anything close FYI, just have some savings spare due to working from home 😅.)

 

Back on topic though, it is a difficult and subjective question, but what is the main factor that would make YOU upgrade your non-work desktop?


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2 minutes ago, TheBritishVillain said:

but what is the main factor that would make YOU upgrade?

When I get 59fps or lower for 0.000001 seconds of course.

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But really, the main factors to upgrade for me at the time were:

- I wanted more performance in games (I have a 4K monitor and the RX 580 wasn't holding up)

- Got into F@H and image upscaling at the time (which ran much better on the 2070S I have now)

- Had the money to afford such an upgrade

- Wanted the upgrade (which I think might have been the most important factor)

 

Right now I am looking towards perhaps upgrading my CPU at some time, but I have held off from that, as I don't think I qualify for most of these points (the performance I get is still good, it's not holding me back and I don't exactly want to upgrade yet).


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I've convinced myself to not upgrade until the system stops performing the way I want it/isn't sufficient for what I'm doing. This could mean no meaningful upgrade (aside from things like fans, storage, case, etc) for a few more years.

 

4 minutes ago, TheBritishVillain said:

however it is no longer top-spec.

Parts kinda stop being "top-spec" when newer ones come out.

5 minutes ago, TheBritishVillain said:

When is the 'optimal' time to upgrade for a high-end build?

When it stops working the way you want it.

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1 minute ago, minibois said:

When I get 59fps or lower for 0.000001 seconds of course.

/s

 

But really, the main factors to upgrade for me at the time were:

- I wanted more performance in games (I have a 4K monitor and the RX 580 wasn't holding up)

- Got into F@H and image upscaling at the time (which ran much better on the 2070S I have now)

- Had the money to afford such an upgrade

- Wanted the upgrade (which I think might have been the most important factor)

 

Right now I am looking towards perhaps upgrading my CPU at some time, but I have held off from that, as I don't think I qualify for most of these points (the performance I get is still good, it's not holding me back and I don't exactly want to upgrade yet).

What kind of CPU do you have? Curious. 


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1 minute ago, TheBritishVillain said:

What kind of CPU do you have? Curious. 

Ryzen 7 1700.

For perspective, that's quite a ways below your CPU in terms of single-core tasks, but it's 8c16t.

Still holds up in most tasks, some games do get a bit slower.

 

I mainly wanted to upgrade when I was video editing some more, but I am not really doing that at the moment; so I don't have as much of a need to upgrade.


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3 minutes ago, minibois said:

- Wanted the upgrade (which I think might have been the most important factor)

This. Nothing else matters.


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When I bought my Ryzen 7 1700X back in mid-2018, I bought it with the full intentions of making use of it as a higher-end CPU. Once it stops feeling high-end to any degree (or once I really feel the need to upgrade it), that'll be what drives me to upgrade. My GPU is satisfactory enough, at least for the time being. It works just fine for my needs but will obviously become more dated as the RX 580 (and RX 480) are coming up to 5 years old.


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5 minutes ago, TheBritishVillain said:

what is the main factor that would make YOU upgrade your non-work desktop?

i have a hobby/project where i do crypto mining on my desktop to earn money to upgrade itself

so i upgrade almost every new generation release, to keep up with the efficiency needed to be profitable


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I am still on the first gaming computer I have ever gotten so I have not upgraded yet, but when I do I will base it off of this. It is something that Linus said in a video a while back that I made into a flow chart in the off chance it would be useful to someone.

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4 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

I am still on the first gaming computer I have ever gotten so I have not upgraded yet, but when I do I will base it off of this. It is something that Linus said in a video a while back that I made into a flow chart in the off chance it would be useful to someone.

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Simple but logical flow chart I guess 😅😁


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It differs from person to person, I was in a state of constantly upgrading for the longest time, anytime I saw something I wanted I would get it. I got to the system I have now and haven't done much to it in last year or so, I'm planning on sticking with it how it is until my performance isn't where I want it to be, then I'll probably build a new one, I should get a good few years out of it before upgrading or replacing it is necessary. 


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In my old PC the PSU caps popping when trying to zip some files, fans rattling even after applying grease to them, hard drives randomly not being recognized anymore and hitting the overclocking wall, OS being unsupported by browsers as well.

I squeezed the last MHz possible out of that computer (it was a prebuilt) for years, added and replaced junk parts and it still works, of course it takes ages to load shit like youtube not because it's bad but because coders love to create spaghetti code that's heavier and eats more and more RAM each year so you eventually have to replace it.

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I plan to do the same with my current computer, keep it until it's too old to even browse a website.

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If there's some aspect (noise, performance, features) that I don't like or really want

 

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When something dies or becomes so unstable/unsupported it's unusable.

 

My 370 was still plenty fast for me, but the experimental Linux support really wasn't cutting it. Switched to my 570 when I found a good local deal. I can't see myself upgrading my PC any time in the next few years, it's still great. Laptop might change, and my monitors likely will, but my PC is fine.


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7 hours ago, TheBritishVillain said:

I only built my PC just over 2 1/2 years ago (my first custom build besides mining rigs) however it is no longer top-spec. 6 cores is measly and SSD's have become much faster. Although, I won't actually get too much of an actual performance increase if I upgraded and probably lose out on a bunch of money really. 

 

(Furthermore, when I first built it, it had a different motherboard and a 7700K instead but I changed that and then 2 weeks after I changed it, the 9900K got released 😬)

 

When is the 'optimal' time to upgrade for a high-end build? Do you wait until you have got full use out of the machine and things start to break or is there a specific time when you decide to upgrade?

If I look at your specs, I definitely would not upgrade now. Your parts are still so good that you wont get a good performance increase from upgrading.

 

1080ti? sure you could get a 2080ti, its a bit faster. Probably not enough to notice, unless at 4k ultra, and you would burn $1200. it would be like burning money really.

 

Put your money in a savings account, or buy something you really need.

 

I personally don't upgrade until I need to, or find a really good deal on a used or new part. If I can sell my old parts for a reasonable price, I can talk myself into upgrading.

 

 

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When it no longer performs to the level I want it to based on what I'm doing with it. 

 

My 2060super and 7600k will last another few years at least. 


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When I smell something burning. Or when I finally get tired of 30FPS and convince myself to invest the money into a new system. 

 

Either way, I don't expect this thing to be fully replaced soon, even if it's a decade old by now. 


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When I feel that the performance is significantly impacting my time spent on it. 
 

Not if I drop down something like 5FPS, or need an extra 12 seconds to render a video, but something major like playing at 15FPS or unable to edit videos efficiently. 


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5 hours ago, maartendc said:

If I look at your specs, I definitely would not upgrade now. Your parts are still so good that you wont get a good performance increase from upgrading.

 

1080ti? sure you could get a 2080ti, its a bit faster. Probably not enough to notice, unless at 4k ultra, and you would burn $1200. it would be like burning money really.

 

Put your money in a savings account, or buy something you really need.

 

I personally don't upgrade until I need to, or find a really good deal on a used or new part. If I can sell my old parts for a reasonable price, I can talk myself into upgrading.

 

 

Fun fact; I actually upgraded to a 2080 Ti when it came out but sold it and got a 1080Ti back due to some issues the turing cards caused on one of my favorite games.

 

It was a beast of a card though.


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23 hours ago, TheBritishVillain said:

but what is the main factor that would make YOU upgrade your non-work desktop?

if my workload requires the extra horsepower. 

currently running a 3100 and it does my job, my workload isn't hardware intensive, little bit of gaming here and there. so it doesn't scale up to 6/8 cores, when/ if my workload does scale to 6/8 cores, i'll upgrade. 


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13 hours ago, minibois said:

Got into F@H

WOO!!!!!!!! Minibois!

 

Anyway...

 

Go join our F@H team then you have a reason to upgrade!

 

But on a more serious note, you only need to upgrade if your not happy with how your PC performs doing the tasks that you want it to do.


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i upgrade something when it breaks or when it doesn't perform well anymore. my current pc has a gpu in it from 2012 and it's still holding up well in all the games i play so i don't feel like upgrading it


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Basically when my old computer can't do what I need it to or has failed outright. My last build (December 2019) came to be when the previous build (September 2014) had dual graphics card failures, some RAM failures AND I needed Thunderbolt. Since I figured it too difficult/pricy to track down 64-128GB of DDR3, and since the X79 Platform was incompatible with Thunderbolt, I made the switch to Ryzen. While I was at it, I also took the time to make quality of life improvements - went small form factor with docks to make a more pleasant "cockpit". My last build before the 2014 build was in 2008, so I'm fairly reliably every 6 years.

 

I wouldn't even say the new computer is noticeably faster than the old one, it's just nicer to use and up to date. A few more CPU cores (3950x vs 4930k) haven't made any seismic changes - it's made some things slightly faster. 

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13 hours ago, TheBritishVillain said:

I only built my PC just over 2 1/2 years ago (my first custom build besides mining rigs) however it is no longer top-spec. 6 cores is measly and SSD's have become much faster. Although, I won't actually get too much of an actual performance increase if I upgraded and probably lose out on a bunch of money really. 

 

(Furthermore, when I first built it, it had a different motherboard and a 7700K instead but I changed that and then 2 weeks after I changed it, the 9900K got released 😬)

 

When is the 'optimal' time to upgrade for a high-end build? Do you wait until you have got full use out of the machine and things start to break or is there a specific time when you decide to upgrade?

 

Yes, I have a bit of money to spend, but I bet even even millionaires don't buy a new PC every 6 months. (I'm not a millionaire or anything close FYI, just have some savings spare due to working from home 😅.)

 

Back on topic though, it is a difficult and subjective question, but what is the main factor that would make YOU upgrade your non-work desktop?

When I get bored and it doesn’t cost a small fortune. Messing about with cameras now though so thinking that’s gonna take my spare cash 


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