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Posted · Original PosterOP

I have a Dell P2314H PC monitor, which is a great IPS monitor, although a little old (I think it's been 7 years on the market).
Something that bothers me a little is the big difference in picture quality in HQ movies (12-14 GB for a 1080p movies, Bluray rips) between the monitor and TV, Samsung UA48J5200, a 5 year old 1080p TV which isn't that highly rated.
The TV looks much sharper, much more lively and colorful, much more cinematic. I don't expect a 1500$ TV/OLED performance from a PC monitor, but that's a big difference.
Is there a 23-27 inch monitor (TV would be too big) which can produce a good, cinematic picture? Even an entry-level TV picture would be good.
Although, were there big improvements in PC monitors since my P2314H, aside from higher frame rates and resolutions? Would there be a noticeable difference between my 7 year old IPS and a current 23-24 inch IPS monitor in the same price range? Specifically in movies.

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Budget before we recommend very expensive monitors.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Not Wills said:

Budget before we recommend very expensive monitors.

600$, but if there is something significantly better I'm willing to go up to 1000$.

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The problem with monitors is, they mostly leave out a lot of processing in exchange for lower input lag. The image processing is AS IMPORTANT as the panel itself when it comes to picture quality. That's the reason many TV just look straight up better with almost any content. Really the only no-compromise picture with good picture quality and good input lag are high-end TVs like LG's OLEDs. Until i got my OLED myself i never realized how important processing is and not just a high resolution like 4K. There is no monitor that comes close to the quality of a decent TV when it comes to Movies. Not even the >1000$ monitors like the Predator X27 or similar models. I don't even want to get started with HDR. Here TV are so much better i won't even try to search for a consumer monitor that will deliver any real TV-like HDR.

 

TLDR: Get a TV for movies, and a monitor for games. Or invest more in a high-end TV that can do both really well. Any other way you're making big compromises.


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Another side note, maybe you didn't know: Netflix can only stream 720p max through chrome. Maybe that's the reason why it looks worse on your monitor. I think there's a Windows app for Netflix, but idk if this will solve the problem.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
26 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

The problem with monitors is, they mostly leave out a lot of processing in exchange for lower input lag. The image processing is AS IMPORTANT as the panel itself when it comes to picture quality. That's the reason many TV just look straight up better with almost any content. Really the only no-compromise picture with good picture quality and good input lag are high-end TVs like LG's OLEDs. Until i got my OLED myself i never realized how important processing is and not just a high resolution like 4K. There is no monitor that comes close to the quality of a decent TV when it comes to Movies. Not even the >1000$ monitors like the Predator X27 or similar models. I don't even want to get started with HDR. Here TV are so much better i won't even try to search for a consumer monitor that will deliver any real TV-like HDR.

 

TLDR: Get a TV for movies, and a monitor for games. Or invest more in a high-end TV that can do both really well. Any other way you're making big compromises.

Yeah I had a feeling it might be the case. Guess I'll have to hope that we'll have small OLED TVs at some point in the future. Thanks.

12 minutes ago, Stahlmann98 said:

Another side note, maybe you didn't know: Netflix can only stream 720p max through chrome. Maybe that's the reason why it looks worse on your monitor. I think there's a Windows app for Netflix, but idk if this will solve the problem.

I know, the app is better but no by much. I downloaded a few movies using the app and they're 2-2.5GB which is way too small. I usually download HQ releases, about 8-12 GB for a movie.

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6 minutes ago, ronik56 said:

Yeah I had a feeling it might be the case. Guess I'll have to hope that we'll have small OLED TVs at some point in the future. Thanks.

 


It’s almost a safe bet that we just won’t see small OLEDs. 
 

It would be MicroLED that brings around the small monitor sized screens and that’s a way off yet. 

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2 hours ago, ronik56 said:

I have a Dell P2314H PC monitor, which is a great IPS monitor, although a little old (I think it's been 7 years on the market).
Something that bothers me a little is the big difference in picture quality in HQ movies (12-14 GB for a 1080p movies, Bluray rips) between the monitor and TV, Samsung UA48J5200, a 5 year old 1080p TV which isn't that highly rated.
The TV looks much sharper, much more lively and colorful, much more cinematic. I don't expect a 1500$ TV/OLED performance from a PC monitor, but that's a big difference.
Is there a 23-27 inch monitor (TV would be too big) which can produce a good, cinematic picture? Even an entry-level TV picture would be good.
Although, were there big improvements in PC monitors since my P2314H, aside from higher frame rates and resolutions? Would there be a noticeable difference between my 7 year old IPS and a current 23-24 inch IPS monitor in the same price range? Specifically in movies.

Chances are your TV is running a higher contrast, higher saturation preset. This isnt uncommon in cheaper TVs to make them stand out among others and not look so bad vs more expensive models in the shop.

In the end though ur not getting the picture thats intended by the movie creator.

Even if the TV is 'good' preset, vs Monitors it will still look better due to the panel type.

 

Cheap monitors are usually poorly calibrated being that they are significantly less bright this can stand out more vs a TV as the majority of TVs are VA, which have better contrast and thus makes images look 'richer', whilst your monitor is an IPS which will have a far lower contrast.

 

If u want a monitor that 'pops' more in terms of color saturation u want to aim for a higher contrast, thus a VA panel.

 

That said, ull never get 2 displays looking the same if u dont calibrate them using a colorimeter.

 

Read the below thread for ways to find these monitors.

 

 


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2 hours ago, ronik56 said:

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I assume by "tv level pictures you mean deep blacks and contrast, ur best shot without breaking the bank is a VA panel, they range from 300usd viotek and pixios to the 700usd samsung g7.

 

For ips, even the x27 or pg27uq has problems with black levels once they are bright enough to not trigger the fald.

 

it's impossible to recommend a specific one since it's more of ur personal taste if i had to guess is the samsung g7


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