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Posted · Original PosterOP

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By looking the amount of chok on the right mobo it has and those "cylinder shape things", the mobo on the right is better than the mobo on the left, because the more it has those kind of things the better it is.

 

is this how you guys to tell apart which mobo is better than which?

 

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1 minute ago, jumbo9i0 said:

By looking the amount of chok on the right mobo it has and those "cylinder shape things", the mobo on the right is better than the mobo on the left, because the more it has those kind of things the better it is.

is this how you guys to tell apart which mobo is better than which?

I just use reviews. Or rather use the motherboard tier list from this forum, which used reviews as sources.

See the full sheet to see what the VRM situation on different boards is: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?usp=sharing


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2 minutes ago, jumbo9i0 said:

 

By looking the amount of chok on the right mobo it has and those "cylinder shape things", the mobo on the right is better than the mobo on the left, because the more it has those kind of things the better it is.

they are collectively called VRMs. The amount of them doesn't matter unless you overclock.


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those blocks are inductors and the "cylinder shape things" are caps, the b450 prime a is not a good board, some of these inductors don't do anything for the most part, that amount of inductors does not mean there's 8 mosfets, just like the b450 pro 4, it has 9 inductors, does that mean it has 9 phases? no it's a 3+3. 

you can watch reviews and check the actual vrm solution, like a build zoid video. 

 

10 hours ago, Mad153 said:

The amount of them doesn't matter unless you overclock.

what?

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In my opinion, neither looks acceptable for an LGA 1200 board. Are you trying to build an office PC?

 

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

the b450 prime a is not a good board

That's B460 (Intel, 1200), not B450.

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2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

what?

thought he was talking about vrm heat spreaders. 

 

 

 

 

 

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It's Buildzoid, so this is probably a pretty good explanation of motherboard VRMs.


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4 minutes ago, Mad153 said:

they are collectively called VRMs. The amount of them doesn't matter unless you overclock.

Just now, Mad153 said:

thought he was talking about vrm heat spreaders. 

Even if you are just talking about the VRM cooling alone, they still do matter even if you're not overclocking.

Simply put, a Ryzen 3 3100 or a Ryzen 9 3950X use a different amount of power, for which you need a different sort of motherboard (or rather the Ryzen 9 would need a motherboard with a better overall VRM deal going on).

 


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10 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

That's B460 (Intel, 1200), not B450.

ah, i didn't even notice that, the only reason i thought it was the b450 is because of the heatsink LOL. my bad. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Are you trying to build an office PC?

just wanna know low-tier mobo knowledge😅

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5 minutes ago, jumbo9i0 said:

just wanna know low-tier mobo knowledge😅

Oh, well those two don't look a whole lot different, as in neither is a lot better than the other if I had to guess. There's more chokes/inductors on the second board, indicating that there's probably more MOSFETs underneath, but the heatsink looks.. well, I don't know why they even bothered. At least it's there I guess, but it looks like it's barely got any surface area for heat dissipation. 


I would suggest looking up some of Buildzoid's motherboard PCB breakdowns, where he talks in detail about the power deliveries and all the components on the board in question. It's really insightful, if you're interested in that sort of thing.


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2 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I would suggest looking up some of Buildzoid's motherboard PCB breakdowns

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Watching the theory-oriented video I posted, and then a PCB breakdown, and then the theory video again would probably give you a decent idea of what is going on where, and why it matters.


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both bad

you see 1st with unused display solder port, thats a cut down board

also that cpu socket is to avoid

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