minecraft with shaders chocking the pc?

HardStroke · August 3, 2020

out of every game that i played, minecraft with shaders actually seems to be the most demanding game.

im using beyond belief with shadow and render quality on x2 (max) but without anti aliasing

i have a 2080 aorus and a 10600k

cpu clocked at 4.8ghz

gpu is turboing all the way up to 2130mhz (sometimes) but usually sits at around 2000-2050mhz, and the memory is 7350mhz

i maxed out core voltage, power limit and temp limit in afterburner and set the core to +100 (to keep the core clock more consistent and not bounce between 2050-2130mhz and memory to +351

temps are around 72c and the average frames are 45-55. i use optifine which gives better performance to the games and at the top left i see for example 55/45 fps. the left is fps right now and i guess the right one is 1% low? not so sure so correct me if im wrong

how is it possible? from what i saw online, a 10600k wont bottleneck even a 2080 ti so bn is not my problem.

my old i5 3550 and 2080 combo handled warzone on the highest-second to highest settings with ray tracing at 100 fps so a 10600k and 2080 combo can handle minecraft with shaders????

Mateyyy · August 4, 2020

It's not really "demanding", it's just unoptimised. Or rather, the 3D Java engine Minecraft is using was not made with shaders/path tracing/any other mods of this kind in mind. It also probably uses a really old OpenGL version, and that doesn't help either.

svmlegacy · August 4, 2020

Minecraft with mods can be horribly optimized at times, and can bring any system to its knees, depending on settings.

7 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

gpu is turboing all the way up to 2130mhz (sometimes) but usually sits at around 2000-2050mhz, and the memory is 7350mhz

i maxed out core voltage, power limit and temp limit in afterburner and set the core to +100 (to keep the core clock more consistent and not bounce between 2050-2130mhz and memory to +351

temps are around 72c and the average frames are 45-55.

Sounds like the GPU is working, and working hard.

8 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

how is it possible? from what i saw online, a 10600k wont bottleneck even a 2080 ti so bn is not my problem.

Bottlenecking is not yes/no. It's actually a pretty complicated thing that depends on a lot, including game settings and resolution.

9 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

my old i5 3550 and 2080 combo handled warzone on the highest-second to highest settings with ray tracing at 100 fps

You're comparing apples to oranges. Minecraft and Warzone don't even share the same game engine, even remotely.

tl;dr: Lower your expectations and settings. Run a logging software such as HWiNFO to find out what's holding it back. Minecraft with shaders, depending on the pack, is not easy to run.

HardStroke · August 4, 2020

1 minute ago, svmlegacy said:

Sounds like the GPU is working, and working hard.

only game that got it this far, with a custom fan curve that on regular uses, temp doesn't go above 60c

2 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

You're comparing apples to oranges. Minecraft and Warzone don't even share the same game engine, even remotely.

yeah i know but still, warzone is a pretty heavy title to run, especially with older hardware

did some checks and those are the results:

on task manager:

cpu: 15% usage

gpu: PINNED at 99% usage (not really surprised since graphics are kinda insane and my world is really beyond end game if you know a little about the game and graphics are maxed so from that point this game turns from a cpu intensive game to a beefy gpu game)

gpu is at around 72c and cpu as noraml at 63c

HardStroke · August 4, 2020

17 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

It's not really "demanding", it's just unoptimised. Or rather, the 3D Java engine Minecraft is using was not made with shaders/path tracing/any other mods of this kind in mind. It also probably uses a really old OpenGL version, and that doesn't help either.

unoptimized???

if that's really the case i don't know what to say

ive never seen a game this unoptimized

with my old i5 3550 and gtx 650, in the same minecraft world, same shaders and normal quality, i got around 20 fps average.

and now i have a cpu thats 7 generation newer, has 2 more cores, triple the thread amount, hyper threading and almost a full GHz overclock (then the older 3550 3.9ghz clock, yeah learned that its actually important in this game) and top end gpu and i get just 20 fps more on highest settings? that kind of a bruh moment for me