i7 10700k - Ryzen 7 3700x

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Nena Trinity said:

which was Piledriver and all other Buldozer

Yea I'm aware of the problems with buldozer's problems and they're fpu. I just didn't understand what you meant by that lol..

[jones177]

14 hours ago, ValorantIsBetterThanCsgo said:

Basically the title. Im personally for the AMD alternative, much better value, fairly similair performance etc. But after having taken a look at graphs like these... i dunno... 
Id be using it to game primarily, but usually id have a youtube video or spotify or discord or everything at once running on my second and third monitor. 
Goal is to get 144fps or higher in most competetive games like everything from Valorant to Rainbow Six, while also running discord and chrome bla bla bla. 

Is the chart representative of how it really is? If so, do you guys think the few fps are worth it? Do you guys have any negative or positive experience with either? I expect to be bombarded with "GO AMD WE R IN 2020" answers, but id rather ask a dumb question than buy a wrong cpu 

The chart is very accurate.

My i7 8086k gets 162fps average so about the same as a i5 10600k.

 

At 1440p SOTTR Is close to becoming GPU bound with a 2080 ti so all the high end Intel and AMD CPUs bunch up with no real difference between them. 

 

I only use Intel CPUs because of my modded games are CPU bound even a 4k. For my vanilla games I could use either CPU since I mainly play at 3840 X 1600 or 4k.

 

So if you play competitive games at 1080p or play modded/building games that use older engines get Intel.  If you play AAA games at 1440p or higher get either one.  

[ValorantIsBetterThanCsgo]

goddDAMN these r more people than i expected x). I wanna thank all of u guys first of all, and yeah ive gone through all your replies and in conclusion

First of all: Jesus christ i know less than i thought I knew
Second of all: Zen 3 is a really good point, i might wait for some more news on that before buying anything at all

Depending on whether or not i manage to sell my old pc components, i might be able to get a cpu and an rtx 2070s (im not quite rich enough for 2080 yet) so thats a possibility. When it comes to intel/amd im still very split, on the one hand intel is (allegedly) easier to install and better rounded off, has better performance for games, but the 3700x has more multitasking ability and supports PCIE 4.0 (which may be something important in the future, i presume)

10600(k) 
+4.1 ghz + Low cost
-6 Cores

10700(k)
+Octa-core
=3.8 ghz
-High Cost

7 3700x
+Octa-core +x570
=Medium cost
-3.4 ghz

Did I forget anything? And if not, are 6 Cores really futureproof too? 

[ValorantIsBetterThanCsgo]

4 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

12 threads should handle a game, Discord, Chrome, Spotify and other junk in the background just fine. I wouldn't really worry about it.

 

Prices vary a fair bit depending on the country, but going by Germany pricing on PCPP here's what I'd recommend considering your budget:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i5-10600K 4.1 GHz 6-Core Processor	€273.79 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler	€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard	MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK ATX LGA1200 Motherboard	€215.47 @ Alza
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€559.16
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-01 11:10 CEST+0200

I'd also look for a Z490 Gaming Edge WIFI (ATX, not the mATX variant), since it has a slightly better VRM than the Tomahawk.

There's also the Z490 Vision G, which is ever so slightly behind the Tomahawk in terms of VRM, but it's got tons of rear IO connectivity and a white aesthetic if you're into that.

 

If you end up changing your mind and favouring the extra threads, for around the same price as the Z490 Tomahawk I'd look for either of these boards for a 3700X and plenty of future upgradability: X570 Tomahawk, B550 Aorus Pro, B550 Gaming Edge WIFI/Tomahawk (on B550, the Tomahawk and GE WIFI have identical VRMs as opposed to Z490), Strix B550-F.

In what way is your suggested motherboard better than an MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus (which ive seen at 160 euros)?

EDIT: nvm i just found your suggestion for 180 which isnt much more

 

[Mateyyy]

14 minutes ago, ValorantIsBetterThanCsgo said:

In what way is your suggested motherboard better than an MSI MPG Z490 Gaming Plus (which ive seen at 160 euros)?

Iirc that's got the same VRM as on the Z490-A Pro. For just 20 euro more, even the Tomahawk is quite a lot better, but the Gaming Edge WIFI even more so, if you can find it for a fair price.

[Nena Trinity]

41 minutes ago, ValorantIsBetterThanCsgo said:

goddDAMN these r more people than i expected x). I wanna thank all of u guys first of all, and yeah ive gone through all your replies and in conclusion

First of all: Jesus christ i know less than i thought I knew
Second of all: Zen 3 is a really good point, i might wait for some more news on that before buying anything at all

Depending on whether or not i manage to sell my old pc components, i might be able to get a cpu and an rtx 2070s (im not quite rich enough for 2080 yet) so thats a possibility. When it comes to intel/amd im still very split, on the one hand intel is (allegedly) easier to install and better rounded off, has better performance for games, but the 3700x has more multitasking ability and supports PCIE 4.0 (which may be something important in the future, i presume)

10600(k) 
+4.1 ghz + Low cost
-6 Cores

10700(k)
+Octa-core
=3.8 ghz
-High Cost

7 3700x
+Octa-core +x570
=Medium cost
-3.4 ghz

Did I forget anything? And if not, are 6 Cores really futureproof too? 

Yes no maybe, that depends on PS5 and XBSX mainly, can these consoles fully use their 8-cores and GPU at the same time? If the answer is no, 6-cores I will bet is a safe bet since the 8-cores on next Gen might be thermally limited. How ever if it is not then only a 8-core will do and if FPU heavy games will be the norm thanks to said console I fear Comet Lake may not be future proof at all... OwO?