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Getting a new budget pc. Need to choose matx cheap motherboard.

Just now, RR94IND said:

B450m sl around $106, b550 sl around $250,

Oh wow that's a terrible price for the ds3h. Honestly if the steel legend is 100 bucks. That's not a bad deal. And it can still handle an 8 core just fine. 

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hello,

Which one of the below mentioned motherboards will be better? Cpu I will be using is a 3600 and ram will be same as mine (Ripjaws V 3000 8gx2).

1. Asrock B450M Steel Legend

2. Gigabyte B550M Ds3h

 

I won't OC cpu. Gpu will be a rtx 2060 fe.

Mainly for office works and gaming.


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Strictly between those two, DS3H. 

How much can you get a B450M Pro4 or B450M Mortar Max for, compared to these two?


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i know you may probably want the b550m ds3h instead but i would have to recommend the b450m ds3h, i know for a fact it supports gen 3 ryzen cpu's and should sometime in the future support gen 4 in some way shape or form, and i know that the b450m ds3h is a good budget motherboard but i dont know much about the b550m ds3h

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Strictly between those two, DS3H. 

How much can you get a B450M Pro4 or B450M Mortar Max for, compared to these two?

Mortar max is not available in stock now, and the sellers who have those in stock have increased the price by nearly 2x


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3 minutes ago, GoodEnough said:

i know you may probably want the b550m ds3h instead but i would have to recommend the b450m ds3h, i know for a fact it supports gen 3 ryzen cpu's and should sometime in the future support gen 4 in some way shape or form, and i know that the b450m ds3h is a good budget motherboard but i dont know much about the b550m ds3h

Thanks for the suggestion but one of my friends has b450m ds3h and he is facing problem with ram in dual channel config


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1 minute ago, RR94IND said:

Thanks for the suggestion but one of my friends has b450m ds3h and he is facing problem with ram in dual channel config

am i to assume that your friend has his ram in the right slots?

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7 minutes ago, GoodEnough said:

i know you may probably want the b550m ds3h instead but i would have to recommend the b450m ds3h, i know for a fact it supports gen 3 ryzen cpu's and should sometime in the future support gen 4 in some way shape or form, and i know that the b450m ds3h is a good budget motherboard but i dont know much about the b550m ds3h

I wouldn't bank on the B450 DS3H having support for Zen 3. And even then, you're only looking at a 6-core in that motherboard. I don't think the downgrade in quality is worth the price difference.

 

4 minutes ago, RR94IND said:

Mortar max is not available in stock now, and the sellers who have those in stock have increased the price by nearly 2x

Yeah that seems to be the norm now with stock. In that case, again if those are your only options, B550M DS3H, or a B450M Pro4 if that's available and cheaper.


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21 minutes ago, RR94IND said:

Asrock B450M Steel Legend

2. Gigabyte B550M Ds3h

The ds3h is better.  

What about the b450 pro 4m? Or heck the b550m pro 4 is also decent. 


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3 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I wouldn't bank on the B450 DS3H having support for Zen 3. And even then, you're only looking at a 6-core in that motherboard. I don't think the downgrade in quality is worth the price difference.

 

Yeah that seems to be the norm now with stock. In that case, again if those are your only options, B550M DS3H, or a B450M Pro4 if that's available and cheaper.

B550M ds3h it is then.


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5 minutes ago, GoodEnough said:

am i to assume that your friend has his ram in the right slots?

Yes, tried both dual channel slots. Checked his ram in my board and it runs fine. Works only in single channel mode on his board.


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3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

The ds3h is better.  

What about the b450 pro 4m? Or heck the b550m pro 4 is also decent. 

Only asrock boards available now are the steel legend series. All the rest are stuck in customs clearance and they are asking additional 5% on top of the regular charges (as per the seller)


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Posted · Original PosterOP

B450m Ac is available but overpriced


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Just now, RR94IND said:

Only asrock boards available now are the steel legend series.

Well if you're only limited to these. 

What are they both priced at?


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6 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I wouldn't bank on the B450 DS3H having support for Zen 3

i didnt mean full support or anything like that, just some kind of beta like support, in my honest opinion its a little overkill to have anything better than a ryzen 5 3600 in any current modern system (in my opinion)

 

2 minutes ago, RR94IND said:

Yes, tried both dual channel slots. Checked his ram in my board and it runs fine. Works only in single channel mode on his board.

he probably just got unlucky with the board, either that or his cpu hates duel channel which wouldnt surprise me because its happened before

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Well if you're only limited to these. 

What are they both priced at?

B450m sl around $106, b550 sl around $250, and x570 sl $330

Only the b450 variant is in my budget


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1 minute ago, GoodEnough said:

i didnt mean full support or anything like that, just some kind of beta like support, in my honest opinion its a little overkill to have anything better than a ryzen 5 3600 in any current modern system (in my opinion)

Fair enough, though if a B450 board gets Zen 3 support it will be through a beta BIOS anyway. I'm just saying that I don't see Gigabyte bothering to release such BIOS for the B450 DS3H since they likely don't expect most people to want to run Zen 3 CPUs in that kind of a motherboard.

A 3600 is plenty for gaming today and probably a good amount of time to come, but a little bit of upgradability is still a nice thing to have.


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Just now, RR94IND said:

B450m sl around $106, b550 sl around $250,

Oh wow that's a terrible price for the ds3h. Honestly if the steel legend is 100 bucks. That's not a bad deal. And it can still handle an 8 core just fine. 


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Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Oh wow that's a terrible price for the ds3h. Honestly if the steel legend is 100 bucks. That's not a bad deal. And it can still handle an 8 core just fine. 

So it would be better than the b550m ds3h as both are similarly priced. The asrock has more rgb bling to it


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3 minutes ago, RR94IND said:

So it would be better than the b550m ds3h as both are similarly priced.

No if they're similarly priced. The ds3h is better. But considering it's 150 dollars more. It's not worth the extra money over the steel legend. 


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Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

No if they're similarly priced. The ds3h is better. But considering it's 150 dollars more. It's not worth the extra money over the steel legend. 

No, ds3h is $120ish b550 steel legend is $250


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20 minutes ago, RR94IND said:

No, ds3h is $120ish

If the b550 Variant is 120 bucks then sure. 

B450 one is subpart. 

20 minutes ago, RR94IND said:

b550 steel legend is $250

Ah I thought you were talking about the b450 one. 

Either way. 

The b550 ds3h is better. But if it's a lot more expensive than the b450m steel legend. Then that wouldn't be bad either. 


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Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

If the b550 Variant is 120 bucks then sure. 

B450 one is subpart. 

Ah I thought you were talking about the b450 one. 

Either way. 

The b550 ds3h is better. But if it's a lot more expensive than the b450m steel legend. Then that wouldn't be bad either. 

Hey @TofuHaroto,

New update. Found a x570 phantom gaming 4 from asrock for cheap. And the case I have supports it. So should I go for that?


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3 minutes ago, RR94IND said:

x570 phantom gaming 4

Meh board. 

Will power a 6 core but how cheap is "cheap"?


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Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
42 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Meh board. 

Will power a 6 core but how cheap is "cheap"?

$150


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Just now, RR94IND said:

$150

No not worth it. 

As said above. 

4 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

The b550 ds3h is better. But if it's a lot more expensive than the b450m steel legend. Then that wouldn't be bad either. 

^. 


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CPU: Ryzen 3 3100. Board: B550m TUF plus. Memory: 16 (2x8) 3200 cl16 Hyper x Fury RGB. GPU: Gigabyte Windforce 1650 super.  Boot Drive: MX500. Case: Antec NX500 (Quite crappy. :p) PSU: CX450. 

 

Hehe, Meshify c is a kewl case. 

 

 

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