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Best cloning software for SSD/HDD?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi, I have tried searching on Google for a cloning software program and found a ton of different varietys, and I have no clue which one is better then the other because I have never cloned a harddrive before in my life. My main goal here is to just get it done, with as much success as possible, and as little risk of error or failure as possible, and preferely as easy to use as possible. My most scared is that i'll click on the wrong drive and reverse, cloning the "Destination" drive to the "Original". 

 

 

I have 3 drives that need's to be cloned. There's no SSD --> HDD (mechanical) or HDD --> SSD involved.

 

Clone 1: SSD (128 GB, Brand WD) to SSD (500 GB, Brand Samsung)

Clone 2: SSD (250 GB, Brand WD) to SSD (1 TB, Brand Samsung)

Clone 3: SeaGate Barracuda 2TB (Mechanical) to Seagate Barracuda 2TB (Mechanical)

 

Note on Clone 3: The source Seagate barracuda have broken sectors and bad blocks. (A lot)

 

Additional info: 128 GB WD Green, 250 GB WD Green, Samsung 500 GB 860 EVO, Samsung 1 TB QVO 860.

 

Payment or Free?

I can willingly pay like 30$ for the software license (one-time fee), yearly fee, or monthly fee, but prefer free software aswell. But if the better option is to get a paid product, I would do that. (I would cancel subscription after one time payment have been withdraw from my account though because I don't think i'll be cloning again in a long time).

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Macrium Reflect. Its free as long as you don't want incremental backups.


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I use clonezilla its linux based tho, you can set it up with pxe to such point that it auto mounts your nas drive very easy to use once you learn to set it up with pxe network boot

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Posted · Original PosterOP
12 minutes ago, Escanor said:

I use clonezilla its linux based tho, you can set it up with pxe to such point that it auto mounts your nas drive very easy to use once you learn to set it up with pxe network boot

Don't know what pxe or nas is, im not familar with server management or RAID, and never used linux either. 

 

If I use Macrium Reflect will it just clone the disk or will it also increase the storage capacity volume to the new disk capacity aswell, or do I need a 2ndary software for that?

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2 minutes ago, Twister said:

Don't know what pxe or nas is, im not familar with server management or RAID, and never used linux either. 

 

If I use Macrium Reflect will it just clone the disk or will it also increase the storage capacity volume to the new disk capacity aswell, or do I need a 2ndary software for that?

 

Network storage and pxe is a protocol for network boot one of those is ipxe that has uefi bios support macrium reflect can also be setup over the network altho i am not sure if it can auto mount a network storage

 

If you clone you need least same size disk or bigger

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Posted · Original PosterOP
6 minutes ago, Escanor said:

 

Network storage and pxe is a protocol for network boot one of those is ipxe that has uefi bios support macrium reflect can also be setup over the network altho i am not sure if it can auto mount a network storage

 

If you clone you need least same size disk or bigger

Free or available?

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1 minute ago, Twister said:

Free or available?

 

Avaible if after you made the clone you can select clone backup to restore it either to same drive or another drive that is same size or bigger

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4 minutes ago, Twister said:

 

If you clone you need least same size disk or bigger

Well, that's untrue. Or Macrium Reflect limitation.

I like Minitool Partition Wizard. AOMEI also is able to resize partitions, make them smaller if needed.


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Just now, Tan3l6 said:

Well, that's untrue. Or Macrium Reflect limitation.

 

You can bassicly make a clone of a drive and store it for later use  so not un true, im not sure about directly cloning from drive to drive haven't used macrium reflect in a long time

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5 minutes ago, Escanor said:

 

You can bassicly make a clone of a drive and store it for later use  so not un true, im not sure about directly cloning from drive to drive haven't used macrium reflect in a long time

OK, imaging and cloning must differ, as I added to my previous post, I have had luck of automatic resize of data partition, if the destination drive is smaller, when cloning. I think Aomei, Minitool and Macrium are probably somewhat similar, though some have different options like imaging and making bootable USB versions of the program...


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2 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

OK, imaging and cloning must differ, as I added to my previous post, I have had luck of automatic resize of data partition, if the destination drive is smaller, when cloning.

 

I use it mainly to make a backup for later restoration if needed since clean install can be quite time consuming task, which is why i setup network boot with my synology nas and use clonezilla only takes few clicks and then i just let it run overnight, latest clonezilla has multicore support and compresses clone quite well to, macrium reflect works pretty similar altho probably has better raid support, clonezilla works much faster tho.

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Just a questioin, what disk should I be running the software on (clone software) or do I need a secondary computer to clone? 

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13 minutes ago, Twister said:

Just a questioin, what disk should I be running the software on (clone software) or do I need a secondary computer to clone? 

You can run it on the disk that is to be cloned from,  after tasks are set it  just needs a restart and it starts to clone after that. Just can't use OS same time.


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8 minutes ago, Twister said:

Just a questioin, what disk should I be running the software on (clone software) or do I need a secondary computer to clone? 

 

Preferably not the drive you intent to restore to

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Posted · Original PosterOP
11 minutes ago, Escanor said:

 

Preferably not the drive you intent to restore to

Haha! Smart!

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Does disk need be wiped when use it for cloning or is it ok if there is some stuff on it?

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Just now, Twister said:

Does disk need be wiped when use it for cloning or is it ok if there is some stuff on it?

I think it has to be clean of partitions to clone to the destination disk.


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Just now, Tan3l6 said:

I think it has to be clean of partitions to clone to the destination disk.

Whats the best way do it? Or I have to open windows installer again and erase it? Can I clean it in any of the mentioned above softwares or use a windows utility to clean it?

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Just now, Twister said:

Whats the best way do it? Or I have to open windows installer again and erase it? Can I clean it in any of the mentioned above softwares or use a windows utility to clean it?

The partitions can be erased from the destination disk with the partitioning/cloning software. Easiest. Though can use Windows disk management.


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1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

The partitions can be erased from the destination disk with the partitioning/cloning software. Easiest. Though can use Windows disk management.

Yes I see. Thing  is I installed already Windows 10 on it and i wanted do it manually but it was too much of hassle and i wanted do a clone instead. I hope it ok to change your mind mid through

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Just now, Twister said:

Yes I see. Thing  is I installed already Windows 10 on it and i wanted do it manually but it was too much of hassle and i wanted do a clone instead. I hope it ok to change your mind mid through

Well, I'd recommend just deleting all partitions from destination disk and cloning a disk. Though it reminds me that you probably don't have to delete all partitions form destination disk, but if it is just in the middle of a fresh install, there's probably no need to keep any partitions. 

But it's totally up to you.


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10 minutes ago, Twister said:

Does disk need be wiped when use it for cloning or is it ok if there is some stuff on it?

 

Clonezilla does this automaticly even gives you a warning pretty sure its the same with macrium reflect

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1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

Well, I'd recommend just deleting all partitions from destination disk and cloning a disk. Though it reminds me that you probably don't have to delete all partitions form destination disk, but if it is just in the middle of a fresh install, there's probably no need to keep any partitions. 

But it's totally up to you.

Nah I dont mind wiping it clean losing all data I put on so far. It just been some drivers and programs like CPU-z, google, and crystal disk info. Funny tho, I did a sfc scannow on new disk and it already showed up corrupt files in system on C , (new disk) and it was just a fresh windows install. Even my old (source) C dont have any errors in windows. 

 

Also my mouse cursor feels "choppy" to move in new install, and when i move it comes a squeelching noise from my PSU/disk , like its pushing limits, but on old disk its smoooooth and silent as a kitten. Ideas? (both showed OK status in crystal disk info)

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1 minute ago, Twister said:

Nah I dont mind wiping it clean losing all data I put on so far. It just been some drivers and programs like CPU-z, google, and crystal disk info. Funny tho, I did a sfc scannow on new disk and it already showed up corrupt files in system on C , (new disk) and it was just a fresh windows install. Even my old (source) C dont have any errors in windows. 

 

Also my mouse cursor feels "choppy" to move in new install, and when i move it comes a squeelching noise from my PSU/disk , like its pushing limits, but on old disk its smoooooth and silent as a kitten. Ideas? (both showed OK status in crystal disk info)

 

If you did not do sfc /scannow before making a clone and its corrupt the clone will obviously find corrupt files to best to do that first, then make a clone if explained this at work to where they use clones to deploy windows, it would be corrupt 100% before the time unless i made the clone image.

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Just now, Twister said:

Nah I dont mind wiping it clean losing all data I put on so far. It just been some drivers and programs like CPU-z, google, and crystal disk info. Funny tho, I did a sfc scannow on new disk and it already showed up corrupt files in system on C , (new disk) and it was just a fresh windows install. Even my old (source) C dont have any errors in windows. 

 

Also my mouse cursor feels "choppy" to move in new install, and when i move it comes a squeelching noise from my PSU/disk , like its pushing limits, but on old disk its smoooooth and silent as a kitten. Ideas? (both showed OK status in crystal disk info)

Disk is not power hungry, so it would never overload PSU.

About choppiness ,there might be so many things to cause issues... lately i had it when HPET wasn't turned off, but it might be peculiarity of my rig.


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