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Hi,

I am waiting my parts for my next build which will be a 3900x mini itx build.

There are the specs.

AMD Ryzen 9 3900x

ASUS ROG Strix X570-I

G.SKILL Trident Z RGB (For AMD) 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200

Fractal Design Ion SFX 650G 80 PLUS Gold Certified 650W Full Modular

Sumsung 970 pro 512 GB (Used)

Western Digital Blue SN550 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB

Zotac GTX 1070 AMP

5 fans upHere 120mm

 

I will use the stock cooler at the beginning but I am not sure about the stock cooler performance in a such small form factor and I like the aesthetic of the AIO. However there is only two 120mm spot on the case to put a radiator on(fitting a 240mm under the gpu seems unlikely) I wonder if a 120mm AIO can be enough to tame the beast ? I don't plan to overclock it.

About the cpu usage it will often be stress on short period of time (few seconds) and sometime (once or twice per month) on longer period (2-4 hours).

 

Are all the AIO equal ? Is there some comparison among them ? Maybe some of them come with thicker radiator?

 

I am thinking of h80i or the Asus ROG Ryuo 120, 

 

 

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Can you fit an NH-L12/L12S in your case?

 

Most 120mm AIOs will realistically be very close to each other in terms of cooling performance, with the thicker ones coming out slightly ahead, though keep in mind that thick radiators work at their best in push/pull, so check for clearance on that.

I would also suggest taking a look at the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120 and EK-AIO 120. They outperform Asetek AIOs and, at least in the case of the Arctic AIO, are actually more inexpensive too.

 

Also, I'd look for an SSD that's actually got a DRAM cache, which the SN550 lacks.

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2 minutes ago, alexdpars said:

I wonder if a 120mm AIO can be enough to tame the beast ?

cramped case with horrible airflow for the rad, gets 94c in a 7 minute load, not sure about saturated temps

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but considering 240 AIO and beefy air coolers all range around 80-85c at stock settings, i wouldnt be too surprised a 120mm AIO would go above 90c

 

7 minutes ago, alexdpars said:

Are all the AIO equal ? Is there some comparison among them ?

no, you'll have to look at reviews where there are both products that you would like to compare in the same test.

-sigh- feeling like I'm being too negative lately

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11 minutes ago, alexdpars said:

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What case are you using?

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2 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

What case are you using?

Lian Li TU150

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10 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Can you fit an NH-L12/L12S in your case?

 

Most 120mm AIOs will realistically be very close to each other in terms of cooling performance, with the thicker ones coming out slightly ahead, though keep in mind that thick radiators work at their best in push/pull, so check for clearance on that.

I would also suggest taking a look at the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120 and EK-AIO 120. They outperform Asetek AIOs and, at least in the case of the Arctic AIO, are actually more inexpensive too.

 

Also, I'd look for an SSD that's actually got a DRAM cache, which the SN550 lacks.

I probably can but I'd prefer an AIO. I like the EK very much I'll try to see review of it and make my mind about it.

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Lian Li TU150

This case can accommodate a pretty large air cooler.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VmMwrH/deepcool-neptwin-rgb-565-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-rgb

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wPkj4D/deepcool-neptwin-white-7434-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-white

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-5117-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F3gzK8/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-505-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk022

 

These will significantly outperform a 120mm AIO for the same money. In particular the Dark Rock Pro 4, it is on par with some 240mm AIO's. 

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19 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

This case can accommodate a pretty large air cooler.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VmMwrH/deepcool-neptwin-rgb-565-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-rgb

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wPkj4D/deepcool-neptwin-white-7434-cfm-cpu-cooler-neptwin-white

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8GBrxr/scythe-mugen-5-rev-b-5117-cfm-cpu-cooler-scmg-5100

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F3gzK8/be-quiet-dark-rock-pro-4-505-cfm-cpu-cooler-bk022

 

These will significantly outperform a 120mm AIO for the same money. In particular the Dark Rock Pro 4, it is on par with some 240mm AIO's. 

I know that the air cooler will do a better job at cooling it's just that I like the AIO path more

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I know that the air cooler will do a better job at cooling it's just that I like the AIO path more

Well a 120mm AIO will perform like a mid range air cooler. Setting fans to push pull will help though, and you have the room in that case.

 

I'd double check but I think the Arctic Freezer II is one of the best option in terms of cooling performance. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CDZzK8/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-120-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00067a

 

Otherwise these are also good.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F2rmP6/corsair-h60-2018-572-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060036-ww

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT/nzxt-kraken-m22-liquid-cpu-cooler-rl-krm22-01

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2 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Well a 120mm AIO will perform like a mid range air cooler. Setting fans to push pull will help though, and you have the room in that case.

 

I'd double check but I think the Arctic Freezer II is one of the best option in terms of cooling performance. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CDZzK8/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-120-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00067a

 

Otherwise these are also good.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F2rmP6/corsair-h60-2018-572-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-cw-9060036-ww

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fmx2FT/nzxt-kraken-m22-liquid-cpu-cooler-rl-krm22-01

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What do you think about the EK AIO suggested by @Mateyyy ?

Yeah the EK stuff is also solid, at a price premium of course. Just go push pull with the fans. I did so in my one ITX build and it made a substantial difference. 

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Yeah the EK stuff is also solid, at a price premium of course. Just go push pull with the fans. I did so in my one ITX build and it made a substantial difference. 

I'll definitely do that!

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I'll definitely do that!

Just make sure you install that aio as intake to the front slot. It will perform much worse if you exhaust all the heat from gpu through it as well.

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Hi man, same Lili case and seeing if a pull trigger with the Arctic 120 mm, how did it work out for you? thanks in advance

 

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