Jump to content
Search In
  • More options...
Find results that contain...
Find results in...
Whateverchan

Thinking of returning 5600 XT.

Recommended Posts

Not a bad idea to also test other stuff like removing most of the ram of the machine or devices that are known to have issues (i.e. cheap pcie usb 3 cards or the like). Over the years i have been plagued by issues i misdiagnosed. Like thinking something was wrong with the motherboard cmos when the issue was a faulty sata cable. Or my video would sometimes crash and i thought the problem was vram related when a bad memory controller on the cpu was to blame.

 

Not saying you should make a flowchart of all PC issues known to man. Just be a little more broad in your initial diagnosis.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP

This confirms Radeon is the culprit. New bugs:

IpOgKCd.jpg

Finally got the BSoD.
nUK4gYD.jpg


Was playing CS, another guy got disconnected. "Lol he got disconnected" immediately after I typed that, the game crashed. Tried to launch it again and got BSoD. I think a certain holy man is watching me...

 

One thing I'm concerned about is when I RMA this card, I'm gonna have to connect HDMI from my motherboard. For some reason, there's no signal when I plug the HDMI cable into my motherboard's port. Do I have to remove the GPU for it to work...?

Link to post
Share on other sites
13 hours ago, 5x5 said:

Reading the whole thread, there are two possibilities.

 

A defective component - be it card, power supply or board. Usually (in 90% of cases I've seen) restarts like that are due to a faulty power supply triggering protections or a faulty component triggering a power supply protection. You could have gotten a lemon card that goes outside of ATX spec and triggers a protection.

 

Some kind of software mess. Do you have the latest BIOS, chipset drivers, all other drivers from each OEM website and is the OS updated? Are broken things such as game mode and Xbox game bar disabled? Do you have any broken software such as specct installed?

It's most likely not a damaged component reading over AMD's driver release notes some black screen/driver hang issues are back in OP's scenario.   If I were @Whateverchan I'd either get a different card, or find a more stable driver version where this isn't happening in their case.   For me it happened with my VII when I'd make game assests in blender on one screen while coding on another.   Or, if I were to enable flash in a browser because a site wouldn't function without it.  Basically, what happens is the screen/s blank out to pitch black as the driver has stopped responding, and after the preset TDR integer value, in seconds, the system reboots.   I think someone above mentioned 2 more stable versions for gaming causing it.   I'm impressed AMD broke it again for that scenario after they just fixed it.  xD  Also, fun fact AMD's cleanup tool is better at cleaning up their drivers than DDU.  

 

https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/gpu-601#faq-3 AMD Cleanup Utility, from what I have seen, cleans up AMD's driver better than DDU.


Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:

| CPU:  Ryzen 9 3900x | CPU Cooler:  EKWB EK-AIO 360 D-RGB | Paste:  Kryonaut | Motherboard:  ASUS ROG x570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) | RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 | Boot Drive:  Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME | Storage Drives:  Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280+Western Digital WD Blue 2 TB 2.5"+Toshiba N300 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM+Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" | GPU:  ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP Extreme Core | Case:  Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL ROG Certified (Black) with Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack+4x Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 V2 Reds added | PSU:  EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply w/CableMod E-Series Cable Kit (Black/Red) | Case Fans:  2 Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans | Displays:  BenQ PD2700U 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz+Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz+MSI Optix MAG322CR 31.5" 1920x1080 180 Hz | Mouse:  Corsair M65 RGB ELITE | Keyboard:  Ducky Shine 7 Blackout - MK Exclusive First Release - RGB LED Double Shot PBT Mechanical Keyboard with Silent Red Switches | Mousepad:  Gaya Entertainment Oversized Gaming Mousepad Doom | Audio:  AKG K712 PRO Headphones+Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone+Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset+iBasso IT01 Dynamic Driver Audiophile In-Ear Monitors/Earbuds (Black)+Pair of Mackie MR624s(came with stands+isolation pads) | OS:  Windows 10 Pro |



Bifröst(ROG Zephyrus M GU502):

| CPU:  i7-9750h | RAM:  32GB Dual Channel 2666mhz CL 19(Stock+Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-21300, 2666MHZ, 260 PIN SODIMM, 1.2V, CL 19 ) | Storage:  1TB SSD with Optane | GPU:  Nvidia RTX 2060 | Display:  144hz 3ms | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro |

Link to post
Share on other sites

@Whateverchan TDR = Timeout detection and recovery.   If the GPU driver doesn't respond within a set amount of seconds that is preset in the registry, aka the integer value in (), then the system crashes.   So, download AMD's cleanup tool and try to do a driver rollback.   MS made changing the TDR value worthless a few updates ago.   But, if you wanna verify a fault in the card, driver or not, download OCCT and do the donut of doom test with error checking.


Bloodshed and the Fenris-Wolf:

| CPU:  Ryzen 9 3900x | CPU Cooler:  EKWB EK-AIO 360 D-RGB | Paste:  Kryonaut | Motherboard:  ASUS ROG x570 Crosshair VIII Hero (Wi-Fi) | RAM:  G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 | Boot Drive:  Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME | Storage Drives:  Crucial MX500 500 GB M.2-2280+Western Digital WD Blue 2 TB 2.5"+Toshiba N300 8 TB 3.5" 7200RPM+Toshiba X300 4 TB 3.5" | GPU:  ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 2080 Ti AMP Extreme Core | Case:  Lian Li O11 Dynamic XL ROG Certified (Black) with Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans 2-Pack+4x Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 V2 Reds added | PSU:  EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply w/CableMod E-Series Cable Kit (Black/Red) | Case Fans:  2 Corsair SP140 49.49 CFM 140 mm Fans | Displays:  BenQ PD2700U 27.0" 3840x2160 60 Hz+Asus TUF Gaming VG27AQ 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz+MSI Optix MAG322CR 31.5" 1920x1080 180 Hz | Mouse:  Corsair M65 RGB ELITE | Keyboard:  Ducky Shine 7 Blackout - MK Exclusive First Release - RGB LED Double Shot PBT Mechanical Keyboard with Silent Red Switches | Mousepad:  Gaya Entertainment Oversized Gaming Mousepad Doom | Audio:  AKG K712 PRO Headphones+Audio-Technica ATR2500-USB Cardioid Condenser USB Microphone+Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel Headset+iBasso IT01 Dynamic Driver Audiophile In-Ear Monitors/Earbuds (Black)+Pair of Mackie MR624s(came with stands+isolation pads) | OS:  Windows 10 Pro |



Bifröst(ROG Zephyrus M GU502):

| CPU:  i7-9750h | RAM:  32GB Dual Channel 2666mhz CL 19(Stock+Samsung 16GB DDR4 PC4-21300, 2666MHZ, 260 PIN SODIMM, 1.2V, CL 19 ) | Storage:  1TB SSD with Optane | GPU:  Nvidia RTX 2060 | Display:  144hz 3ms | Mouse:  Corsair M65 Pro |

Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Whateverchan said:

This confirms Radeon is the culprit. New bugs:

IpOgKCd.jpg

Finally got the BSoD.
nUK4gYD.jpg


Was playing CS, another guy got disconnected. "Lol he got disconnected" immediately after I typed that, the game crashed. Tried to launch it again and got BSoD. I think a certain holy man is watching me...

 

One thing I'm concerned about is when I RMA this card, I'm gonna have to connect HDMI from my motherboard. For some reason, there's no signal when I plug the HDMI cable into my motherboard's port. Do I have to remove the GPU for it to work...?

Your card is defective. Am 99% sure.

 

Also, what CPU do you have? F series and Ryzen series don't have iGPUs

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP
29 minutes ago, 5x5 said:

Your card is defective. Am 99% sure.

 

Also, what CPU do you have? F series and Ryzen series don't have iGPUs

I have 3600. 

So now we conclude it's the card and not the RAM or PSU? It's going back, regardless. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Whateverchan said:

I have 3600. 

So now we conclude it's the card and not the RAM or PSU? It's going back, regardless. 

It could still be RAM or power supply, don't get me wrong, but the bsod makes me think it's a defective GPU or VRAM.

 

But I'd the power supply is going outside ATX spec or is being unstable in rapid succession, this could be the result. Same for unstable memory. Only way to test is to RMA the card and try the new one.

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/19/2020 at 3:52 PM, Whateverchan said:

Already did. Thank god the Amazon customer support was easy. Might not have been the case if it was BH or Newegg. Now I'm looking at 1660 Super/TI or EVGA 2060.

I'm not speaking for everyone here but Amazon has a pretty good return policy.

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/19/2020 at 6:22 AM, Whateverchan said:

Already did. Thank god the Amazon customer support was easy. Might not have been the case if it was BH or Newegg. Now I'm looking at 1660 Super/TI or EVGA 2060.

It's very strange that I'm reading about so many problems with the Radeon GPU's (mainly the 5700xt's) I have a 5700 and my friend has a 5700xt and we haven't experienced ANY of these issues...I even have mine overclocked and everything works without a hitch.

 

I wonder if it has to do with the manufacturer BIOS?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Amazons policy is fortunately awesome

 

 

RMA, get an Nvidia :) 


El Zoido: 9900k / Hydro X / z390 Aorus master / 32 gb Corsair vengeance 3000mHz LPX / RTX 2080 ti / Fractal Define R6

 

The Box: 3900x / DR4 / b450 Asrock ITX / 32 gb Corsair vengeance 3000mHz LPX / RTX 2080 ti / Meshify mini w/ Noctua 140 Blacks

Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted · Original PosterOP

 

14 hours ago, steelo said:

It's very strange that I'm reading about so many problems with the Radeon GPU's (mainly the 5700xt's) I have a 5700 and my friend has a 5700xt and we haven't experienced ANY of these issues...I even have mine overclocked and everything works without a hitch.

 

I wonder if it has to do with the manufacturer BIOS?

It's pretty luck-based, from what I can see. I heard about AMD cards having some sort of drivers issue, but didn't know how bad it was. I took a gamble and I lost. Even someone else who thought about switching to 5700 didn't know how widespread it is until I asked him to help troubleshoot. Think of it like this: 2 out of 5 people who eat this meal will die. It's cheap and delicious, though. Will you take the risk?

14 hours ago, Abhayy said:

I'm not speaking for everyone here but Amazon has a pretty good return policy.

13 hours ago, Zberg said:

Amazons policy is fortunately awesome

 

RMA, get an Nvidia :) 

I just hope it's not going to jeopardize my account after making 2-3 returns in a few weeks. Long story short, this wasn't something I expected to have to return.

 

I also just found out that the 3600 doesn't have integrated GPU, so I won't be able to use my PC without a GPU. Goddamn it... So no waiting for sales for me. T_T Probably gonna get a 1660 Super MSI X from Bestbuy, stick with 1080p for a few more years, and hope 4k is more affordable eventually. *Sigh* I had high hope for this build, beating PS5 and all that...

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


×