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Should I Buy This PC From My Friend? ~$900CAD for Ryzen 2600 + X470 + 32GB RAM

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Posted · Original PosterOP

 

My friend is looking to sell his PC, fully built, for about $900CAD. Seems the only weak point is the motherboard? It appears to be a budget X470 motherboard with average VRM phases which means it may not turbo or overclock as well as say a MSI B450 Tomahawk? Probably wouldn't play nice with a Ryzen 7 3700X or Zen 3 either? Looking to use it for productivity work like Photoshop and video editing and gaming.

 

I should mention he barely used it in the past year he's owned it. Probably turned on and used for a max of 30 days. Yes meaning like 720 hours of up time at most lol. It's so clean there's no dust in there, and no he didn't clean it either cus he wouldn't do such a good job cleaning it.


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no , buy a machine from a reputable seller with a proper warranty and return policy

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Just now, emosun said:

no , buy a machine from a reputable seller with a proper warranty and return policy

He barely used it in the past year he's owned it. Probably turned on and used for a max of 30 days. Yes meaning like 720 hours of up time at most lol. It's so clean there's no dust in there, and no he didn't clean it either cus he wouldn't do such a good job cleaning it.


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1 minute ago, geokilla said:

He barely used it in the past year he's owned it. Probably turned on and used for a max of 30 days. Yes meaning like 720 hours of up time at most lol. It's so clean there's no dust in there, and no he didn't clean it either cus he wouldn't do such a good job cleaning it.

ok , my advice had nothing to do with the machines usage or its cleanliness 

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5 minutes ago, geokilla said:

 

My friend is looking to sell his PC, fully built, for about $900CAD. Seems the only weak point is the motherboard? It appears to be a budget X470 motherboard with average VRM phases which means it may not turbo or overclock as well as say a MSI B450 Tomahawk? Probably wouldn't play nice with a Ryzen 7 3700X or Zen 3 either? Looking to use it for productivity work like Photoshop and video editing and gaming.

Going from the actual specs it seems like you would be able to build approx the same thing for the price that he is asking. If you are looking to spend that much you are much better off simply waiting two months for next generation hardware and then building something new.

 

So basically, it's a scam.


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27 minutes ago, BlueScope819 said:

Going from the actual specs it seems like you would be able to build approx the same thing for the price that he is asking. If you are looking to spend that much you are much better off simply waiting two months for next generation hardware and then building something new.

 

So basically, it's a scam.

I put together a similar build, changing just the motherboard to the MSI B450 Tomahawk and PSU to a Corsair TXM 550 and grand total is $1,080 + tax. If I change it to a NVIDIA GTX1650, it's $1,090 + tax. That's $1,220 after taxes compared to $900. Realistically, probably $850 after a bit of haggling with him since we're good friends. How can you get the same or similar build for $900?

 

Keep in mind in the OP, PCPartPicker doesn't have prices available for the motherboard and PSU so I'd have to substitute if I build a new PC from scratch myself.


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11 hours ago, geokilla said:

I put together a similar build, changing just the motherboard to the MSI B450 Tomahawk and PSU to a Corsair TXM 550 and grand total is $1,080 + tax. If I change it to a NVIDIA GTX1650, it's $1,090 + tax. That's $1,220 after taxes compared to $900. Realistically, probably $850 after a bit of haggling with him since we're good friends. How can you get the same or similar build for $900?

 

Keep in mind in the OP, PCPartPicker doesn't have prices available for the motherboard and PSU so I'd have to substitute if I build a new PC from scratch myself.

If you are buying a machine of any sort on the used market, you don't focus on what parts he used. You focus on what performance those parts get you, compared to the value of what it would be on the used market, part for part. I could make a machine that easily beats the pants off of it for $500, no problem.


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3 hours ago, BlueScope819 said:

If you are buying a machine of any sort on the used market, you don't focus on what parts he used. You focus on what performance those parts get you, compared to the value of what it would be on the used market, part for part. I could make a machine that easily beats the pants off of it for $500, no problem.

Can you link me? I can't put together a system for $900 CAD offering the same performance using new parts. It's down to this system or buying brand new parts.


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11 minutes ago, geokilla said:

Can you link me? I can't put together a system for $900 CAD offering the same performance using new parts. It's down to this system or buying brand new parts.

(All prices in USD unless otherwise stated)

 

Sure, no problem. What you do is buy this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9020-MT-Intel-Core-i7-4770-3-40GHz-8GB-DDR3-Ram-No-HDD-Win-7-COA/174347931973?hash=item2897f25145:g:ZiQAAOSwQVpfBOEq&autorefresh=true

($230)

Along with an adapter so that you can use a standard power supply with it:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGWRTHC

($14)

And a brand new 500gb SSD for storage of your stuff

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N0TQPQB

($55)

And of course, a brand new power supply to power the GPU:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014W3EM2W/

($50)

And then spend the entire rest of budget on the graphics card. You can get more budget for GPU if you buy an Optiplex with a 3770 instead of a 4770.

Buy this for the GPU:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-1070-Mini-Graphic-Card-ZT-P10700G-10M/164293141782?epid=10021692042&hash=item2640a26516:g:ijcAAOSwr-xeUoeS

($180)

And boom, you are at $534 for a gaming computer with an i7 4770, GTX 1070, 8gb RAM, and a 500gb SSD.

Your friend is offering you a PC with an RX 570:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag1a0FpDEUA

 

US $534 to CAD is $722 so you have an extra $95 US to spend on a better graphics card at which point you are looking at a 1070 ti or 980 / 980 ti range.


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1 hour ago, BlueScope819 said:

(All prices in USD unless otherwise stated)

 

Sure, no problem. What you do is buy this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-OptiPlex-9020-MT-Intel-Core-i7-4770-3-40GHz-8GB-DDR3-Ram-No-HDD-Win-7-COA/174347931973?hash=item2897f25145:g:ZiQAAOSwQVpfBOEq&autorefresh=true

($230)

Along with an adapter so that you can use a standard power supply with it:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XGWRTHC

($14)

And a brand new 500gb SSD for storage of your stuff

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N0TQPQB

($55)

And of course, a brand new power supply to power the GPU:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014W3EM2W/

($50)

And then spend the entire rest of budget on the graphics card. You can get more budget for GPU if you buy an Optiplex with a 3770 instead of a 4770.

Buy this for the GPU:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-1070-Mini-Graphic-Card-ZT-P10700G-10M/164293141782?epid=10021692042&hash=item2640a26516:g:ijcAAOSwr-xeUoeS

($180)

And boom, you are at $534 for a gaming computer with an i7 4770, GTX 1070, 8gb RAM, and a 500gb SSD.

Your friend is offering you a PC with an RX 570:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag1a0FpDEUA

 

US $534 to CAD is $722 so you have an extra $95 US to spend on a better graphics card at which point you are looking at a 1070 ti or 980 / 980 ti range.

That's not going to work. The CPU and mobo itself is inherently used so it'll be a no. It needs to be brand new, new. Meaning everything new if she goes that route. Either way I'll let her decide... Thanks for the assistance though


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28 minutes ago, geokilla said:

That's not going to work. The CPU and mobo itself is inherently used so it'll be a no. It needs to be brand new, new. Meaning everything new if she goes that route. Either way I'll let her decide... Thanks for the assistance though

Lmao you understand that the entire system that you will be buying for $900 CAD is used, CPU and motherboard alike? The only component that really matters in terms of power on hours is storage, and in my build it's brand new. There is just no way that you could build something new at that price point that would come anywhere near the performance of this, but hey it's your loss.


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1 hour ago, BlueScope819 said:

Lmao you understand that the entire system that you will be buying for $900 CAD is used, CPU and motherboard alike? The only component that really matters in terms of power on hours is storage, and in my build it's brand new. There is just no way that you could build something new at that price point that would come anywhere near the performance of this, but hey it's your loss.

Well it isn't my decision. It's my friend's decision. Been trying to steer her towards something like what you posted cus it's better bang for buck but if they want brand spanking new, they want brand spanking new.


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2 minutes ago, geokilla said:

Well it isn't my decision. It's my friend's decision. Been trying to steer her towards something like what you posted cus it's better bang for buck but if they want brand spanking new, they want brand spanking new.

Well if your option is a used $900 CAD machine that sucks, or something new, your only option would be to build something that's $900 CAD that sucks even more.

 

It's just how it is.


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