intel Intel Core i7 10th Gen and mobo

[AndresFK]

What's the different between the i7 10700K and i7 10700, in addition to the Max and Base frequency. I just bought the i7 10700 and plan to buy the MSI Z490-A PRO Intel LGA 1200 ATX MOBO and add the EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 Ko Ultra with 650 psu.

 

 

[Guest]

The K allows you to overclock, with a Z series board you can set the frequencies higher manually.

[dizmo]

I wouldn't get an MSI motherboard, and you're better off getting a video card in a couple months when the new ones hit the market.

If you have to buy now, I'd either get a used video card to hold you over, or just play Indie games on the integrated graphics.

[AndresFK]

1 minute ago, NZgamer said:

The 10700K can be overclocked, the 10700 can't

 

Why did you go with Intel?

I just wants to try out the new intel and my computer pretty old now w/  the intel i5 6400. 

[Kanna]

Just now, AndresFK said:

I just wants to try out the new intel and my computer pretty old now w/  the intel i5 6400. 

That could be translated to "I just want to waste more money into less performance" intel isn't really that worth anymore

[AndresFK]

4 minutes ago, BlueScope819 said:

But why?

There isn't a reason to buy a locked Intel chip. All Ryzen CPUs are unlocked and because you end up spending $200 more for that 5% extra gaming performance, you tend to forget that all the tests are done with a RTX 2080 ti. This means that you could get a Ryzen 5 3600 with an RTX 2070S for the same price which will out perform even the most powerful of gaming CPUs simply because the GPU is holding it back so much.

it's first time building a computer and still I have a long way to understand how to do overclocking as well as I don't wants to mess up my OS. Also I just wants to use Intel for some gaming and programming. 

[Kanna]

2 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

it's first time building a computer and still I have a long way to understand how to do overclocking as well as I don't wants to mess up my OS. Also I just wants to use Intel for some gaming and programming. 

Using amd wouldn't hurt gaming / programming performance also if you are overclocking or not ryzen cpus come with a higher base speed than most of intels

 

[DailyProcrastinator]

17 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

What's the different between the i7 10700K and i7 10700, in addition to the Max and Base frequency. I just bought the i7 10700 and plan to buy the MSI Z490-A PRO Intel LGA 1200 ATX MOBO and add the EVGA GeForce RTX 2060 Ko Ultra with 650 psu.

 

 

For a gaming build I would go with the 10600k and overclock. But AMD all around is going to be better here. 

[AndresFK]

6 minutes ago, Kanna said:

That could be translated to "I just want to waste more money into less performance" intel isn't really that worth anymore

The reason I went w/ the intel it's because I used to own 2 AMD laptop in the past that keep overheating on the keyboard and that one thing I didn't like about AMD. In addition, I own an macbook air that have i5 and didn't have any issue with overheating.

[xg32]

16 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

it's first time building a computer and still I have a long way to understand how to do overclocking as well as I don't wants to mess up my OS. Also I just wants to use Intel for some gaming and programming. 

for gaming, there's about a 10% diff above 100fps or so, for programming amd's better, not trying to push u one way or the other. In ur case i'd just grab a 10600k if it's cheaper than the 10700.

 

The old amd laptops are crap, and the current intel laptops are even crappier compared to current amd laptops

 

2 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

The reason I went w/ the intel it's because I used to own 2 AMD laptop in the past that keep overheating on the keyboard and that one thing I didn't like about AMD. In addition, I own an macbook air that have i5 and didn't have any issue with overheating.

 

[Kanna]

1 minute ago, AndresFK said:

The reason I went w/ the intel it's because I used to own 2 AMD laptop in the past that keep overheating on the keyboard and that one thing I didn't like about AMD. In addition, I own an macbook air that have i5 and didn't have any issue with overheating.

Laptops tend to generate heat and there is a difference between laptop AMD and desktop AMD (simplified)

[AndresFK]

I may switch to AMD in the future or when they release more chips with higher thread and core as well as less overheating on the CPU or better CPU cooler.  

[Kanna]

1 minute ago, AndresFK said:

I may switch to AMD in the future or when they release more chips with higher thread and core as well as less overheating on the CPU or better CPU cooler.  

AMD doesn't really overheat as long as you apply thermal paste the stock cooler should run fine

[KaitouX]

11 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

I may switch to AMD in the future or when they release more chips with higher thread and core as well as less overheating on the CPU or better CPU cooler.  

AMD got higher core counts than Intel(Ryzen 9 3900X and 3950X), and are for the most part as cool as non-K Intel CPUs or cooler than the Intel K SKUs counterparts, also AMD desktop CPUs come with a better cooler than the stock cooler from Intel.

 

Edit: But if you're buying a ~$300, in my opinion you should at least get a decent air cooler for ~$35 that will allow much quieter operation or lower temperatures, unless you have some space constraint that doesn't allow tower coolers.

[AndresFK]

3 minutes ago, KaitouX said:

AMD got higher core counts than Intel(Ryzen 9 3900X and 3950X), and are for the most part as cool as non-K Intel CPUs or cooler than the Intel K SKUs counterparts, also AMD desktop CPUs come with a better cooler than the stock cooler from Intel.

Very true that AMD have highest Core and thread compare to Intel and price of this chips it's almost similar to the i9 which I don't need at the moment. However, just waiting for the price to drop a bit when they release a must higher core and threads for AMD.

[Kanna]

2 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

Very true that AMD have highest Core and thread compare to Intel and price of this chips it's almost similar to the i9 which I don't need at the moment. However, just waiting for the price to drop a bit when they release a must higher core and threads for AMD.

How many cores / threads do you really need?

[AndresFK]

18 minutes ago, Kanna said:

AMD doesn't really overheat as long as you apply thermal paste the stock cooler should run fine

I wants to use water cooler instead of a heatsink and the majority of the water cooler have RBG on it which I don't need. 

[Kanna]

Just now, AndresFK said:

I wants to use water cooler instead of a heatsink and the majority of the water cooler have RBG on it which I don't need. 

Corsair Hydro H100x aio or the Corsair Hydro H100x pro there also is some good fractal design ones (There is a lot more out there but I'm just saying some)

[AndresFK]

4 minutes ago, Kanna said:

How many cores / threads do you really need?

maybe 14 or 18 core and 20 thread or maybe high

[Kanna]

2 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

maybe 14 or 18 core and 20 thread or maybe high

The AMD Ryzen 9 3900X is pretty close to that and has over in threads

[AndresFK]

i will keep that in mind going forward about the the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X went the price drop a bit lower (closes to the i7 10700) and look forward for the new the amd chips they will release in the futures. perhaps replacing the mobo and intel and keep some of the old pc rig.

[Kanna]

2 minutes ago, AndresFK said:

i will keep that in mind going forward about the the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X went the price drop a bit lower (closes to the i7 10700) and look forward for the new the amd chips they will release in the futures. perhaps replacing the mobo and intel and keep some of the old pc rig.

I would wait until the release of 4th gen

[KaitouX]

There's a good chance that the 3900X will drop closer to ~$350(or lower) when AMD releases Ryzen 4000(Zen 3). But even at the current $390 it is a great deal, and the $70 difference between the 10700 or $120 from the 3700X and the 3900X makes it a great deal if you benefit from having 12 cores.