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Upgrading my gaming/uni rig

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Hi guys i hope this is the correct place to post this.

 

Im looking into upgrading my current gaming/studies pc from an i5 4670k and 16gb ddr3 to a amd ryzen based system.

I play a bunch of AAA titles as well as some indie games. Im studying mechanical engineering so i will be working with flow and stress simulations in Siemens nx 12 next year.

The delema im stuck with though is weather i should go for a 2700x with 8gb 3200mhz klevv ram or a 1600af with 16gb 3200mhz vengence rgb. There is only a small price difference between the 2 and i dont know if 8gb is enough. i could upgrade the 2700x to 16gb but the ram would run at 2666mhz.

My question basically is should a take the 1600, save a bit of of money and upgrade the cpu in a few years or should a go for the 2700x to "futureproof" myself and look at the ram in a year or so(if option 2 please recommend a ram choice).

 

Links below:

https://www.evetech.co.za/ryzen-5-1600-x470-gaming-plus-max-16gb-rgb-upgrade-kit/best-deal/7922.aspx

https://www.evetech.co.za/ryzen-7-2700x-x470-gaming-plus-max-8gb-ddr4-upgrade-kit/best-deal/7912.aspx

https://www.evetech.co.za/ryzen-7-2700x-x470-gaming-plus-max-16gb-2666mhz-upgrade-kit/best-deal/8517.aspx

 

Thanks in advance for all your advice!

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2 minutes ago, Snoozyl said:

Hi guys i hope this is the correct place to post this.

 

Im looking into upgrading my current gaming/studies pc from an i5 4670k and 16gb ddr3 to a amd ryzen based system.

I play a bunch of AAA titles as well as some indie games. Im studying mechanical engineering so i will be working with flow and stress simulations in Siemens nx 12 next year.

The delema im stuck with though is weather i should go for a 2700x with 8gb 3200mhz klevv ram or a 1600af with 16gb 3200mhz vengence rgb. There is only a small price difference between the 2 and i dont know if 8gb is enough. i could upgrade the 2700x to 16gb but the ram would run at 2666mhz.

My question basically is should a take the 1600, save a bit of of money and upgrade the cpu in a few years or should a go for the 2700x to "futureproof" myself and look at the ram in a year or so(if option 2 please recommend a ram choice).

 

Links below:

https://www.evetech.co.za/ryzen-5-1600-x470-gaming-plus-max-16gb-rgb-upgrade-kit/best-deal/7922.aspx

https://www.evetech.co.za/ryzen-7-2700x-x470-gaming-plus-max-8gb-ddr4-upgrade-kit/best-deal/7912.aspx

https://www.evetech.co.za/ryzen-7-2700x-x470-gaming-plus-max-16gb-2666mhz-upgrade-kit/best-deal/8517.aspx

 

Thanks in advance for all your advice!

So I see that you are basically just looking at different bundles. If possible, wait two months for the Ryzen 4000 series to launch for Desktop which should hopefully give you a lot more cores for your buck which is helpful for your workload.


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4 minutes ago, BlueScope819 said:

So I see that you are basically just looking at different bundles. If possible, wait two months for the Ryzen 4000 series to launch for Desktop which should hopefully give you a lot more cores for your buck which is helpful for your workload.

That was my plan originally but there is a rumor going around saying they the are shutting down due to the pandemic and some tax stuff. Hence the R3000 discount on those bundles. Any recommendations on those bundles i posted?

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5 minutes ago, Snoozyl said:

That was my plan originally but there is a rumor going around saying they the are shutting down due to the pandemic and some tax stuff. Hence the R3000 discount on those bundles. Any recommendations on those bundles i posted?

Well here were my thoughts on it. It took a little detective work (looking at the domain name to figure out that .za means south africa and converting from rand to usd), that it's not awesome prices compared to what I would consider to be a good deal in the US. Really the differences between them come down to the memory and the CPU, in which the CPU matters much more than the memory. I would go for the second one that you linked, with 8gb of RAM, but only if the memory comes in two sticks so you can run it in dual channel. If you only get 1x8 stick of RAM, you are leaving performance on the table.

 

But again, if at all possible wait for Ryzen 4000 to launch so that you can get a better CPU for the same money.


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2 minutes ago, BlueScope819 said:

Well here were my thoughts on it. It took a little detective work (looking at the domain name to figure out that .za means south africa and converting from rand to usd), that it's not awesome prices compared to what I would consider to be a good deal in the US. Really the differences between them come down to the memory and the CPU, in which the CPU matters much more than the memory. I would go for the second one that you linked, with 8gb of RAM, but only if the memory comes in two sticks so you can run it in dual channel. If you only get 1x8 stick of RAM, you are leaving performance on the table.

 

But again, if at all possible wait for Ryzen 4000 to launch so that you can get a better CPU for the same money.

Thanks dude ill remember to add region and conversion rates in my future posts. Yes i agree those prices are not very good but we pay import tax on tech somewhere in the high 40% range and  from my shopping arround even amazon is more expencive after i add import taxes and shipping :(. But thanks for the advice, ill make sure to order 2x4gb sticks.

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one thing would be getting a 3300x, also instead of the 2700x get a 3600.

ram is also quite cheap, you can get 3000MHz kits not much more than 3200MHz 8GB


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CPU: i5-8600k@5.0GHz | GPU 1: GTX 1660@2070MHz | GPU 2: GT 710 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480GB & Kingston UV400 120GB |  HDD: 2x 2TB WD Black | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 10 Pro & Linux Mint 

 

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CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX | OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

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If possible I would not buy the bundle. X470 is a waste of money. If prices are right in your region, a B450 or B550 board with a 2700X or 3600 and a 2x8GB kit should work out better. An Asrock Pro4 B450 with a 2700X and then either 1x8gb stick with the intention of buying another very soon would work. 

Also, if gaming performance is what your after, 3600 is best, or 3300X if you need something cheaper.


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Ryzen 5 2600 Stock

Sapphire Nitro+ Special Edition Radeon RX580 8GB (Would Recommend)

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Phanteks P300 (Would Recommend)

Kingston A400 240GB SSD

Seagate BarraCuda 1TB HDD

Corsair CX550M 550W  80+ Bronze

Deepcool FH-10 Fan Hub

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LG 24MK400H

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Logitech G305 (AAA Adaptor - 10g reduction) (Would recommend)

Logitech Z150

HyperX Cloud II (Would recommend)

Moto G5 Plus (Webcam)

 

Phone

Pixel 3A XL (Would recommend)

 

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55 minutes ago, marmour said:

If possible I would not buy the bundle. X470 is a waste of money. If prices are right in your region, a B450 or B550 board with a 2700X or 3600 and a 2x8GB kit should work out better. An Asrock Pro4 B450 with a 2700X and then either 1x8gb stick with the intention of buying another very soon would work. 

Also, if gaming performance is what your after, 3600 is best, or 3300X if you need something cheaper.

The b550 boards we have here atm are pretty expencive compared to the x470. Im just worried that if i go with the b450 ill loose an upgrade path to ryzen 4000 series. As far as i know only the 500 series boards are officially supporting them burt im pretty sure the x470 series will get a bios update, the b450 im a little sceptical about. As for the cpu options if i go 3600 i pay about 50% more than the bundels i listed. The plan was to go 3300x but SA only has 3100 for now.

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