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Motherboard that supports 3200mhz ram

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3 minutes ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

What combo would you recommend ? @mbntr

Something like a 3100 and a B450, the 3100 has more threads than your cpu and overall better performance, the combo will cost about 200 USD


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2 minutes ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

Yeah but gta v kills me with 40 fps on high settings with gtx 1660 gaming oc 6gb @TofuHaroto

Yeah that's just your cpu not being up to the task and getting a new motherboard for your current i5 7400 will do exactly nothing for your performance problem.

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1 minute ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

@jaslion my h110 pro vd  doesn't support 3200mhz, just 2400mhz and I want to get the full performance. 

I'd adivse what Haro suggested. Wait for Zen 3 or look at AMD's options if you need a pc NOW. Spending money at the platform makes zero sense.

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Just now, ZeroStressLevel said:

Why a B550? A mortar max or tomahawk max from MSI's b450 line up is more than enough to power a R7 3700X lmao.

New platform and upgradability, beta BIOS is not exactly always reliable... :I


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Just now, -_ThatGuy_- said:

@jaslion my h110 pro vd  doesn't support 3200mhz, just 2400mhz and I want to get the full performance. 

Yes but as many have said. Your cpu will maybe if lucky get a 2% performance boost for getting a new motherboard to handle 3200mhz memory. It just does not matter how fast your ram can go as your cpu just doesn't rely on fast ram to work better. So for spending maybe 200$ on a board you may if lucky get 1fps more. That is why we are suggestion you upgrade what does matter. Your cpu and for that we recommend ryzen as even their current cheapest option the ryzen 3100 beats the best possible cpu you could get for your current motherboard whilst being cheaper.

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3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

That's because your limited by your cpu. Ram speeds won't change much. 

@TofuHaroto Idk why but my gpu won't go above 75% usage even if it can. And I get an average of 40 fps and 29-30ish fps when I'm near a lot of grass and trees .(on high and very high settings)

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2 minutes ago, Nena Trinity said:

New platform and upgradability, beta BIOS is not exactly always reliable... :I

What "upgradability". Zen 3 is probably going to be the last lineup of AM4 CPUs. If he is only gaming I don't see him needing to go higher than an 8 core CPU if anything 6 would suffice as well. The power delivery would be fine and the VRM temps be totally ok for up to an 8 core.

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1 minute ago, jaslion said:

Yes but as many have said. Your cpu will maybe if lucky get a 2% performance boost for getting a new motherboard to handle 3200mhz memory. It just does not matter how fast your ram can go as your cpu just doesn't rely on fast ram to work better. So for spending maybe 200$ on a board you may if lucky get 1fps more. That is why we are suggestion you upgrade what does matter. Your cpu and for that we recommend ryzen as even their current cheapest option the ryzen 3100 beats the best possible cpu you could get for your current motherboard whilst being cheaper.

How can I get a ryzen 3100 if my motherboards socket is lga1151? @jaslion

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1 minute ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

@TofuHaroto Idk why but my gpu won't go above 75% usage even if it can. And I get an average of 40 fps and 29-30ish fps when I'm near a lot of grass and trees .(on high and very high settings)

Yes that is because if you check your cpu it will be at 100%. This means that it is just not able to handle anything extra thus it cannot send enough data to your gpu. This is why your gpu is running at around 75% because your cpu just cannot keep up.

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1 minute ago, Nena Trinity said:

New platform and upgradability, beta BIOS is not exactly always reliable... :I

Day 1 the Max boards from MSI have the updated bios.......

 

In fact its the sole reason those boards exist. 

 

@-_ThatGuy_- getting a new board to support a higher memmory speed will solve nothing sadly. 

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1 minute ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

How can I get a ryzen 3100 if my motherboards socket is lga1151? @jaslion

Well of course it can't fit... He is implying you also need a new motherboard as well.

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Just now, -_ThatGuy_- said:

How can I get a ryzen 3100 if my motherboards socket is lga1151? @jaslion

By as I said getting a new motherboard. A ryzen 3100 + a msi b450 max board (any of them will do) will be plenty. If the 3300x is within lets say 10$ of the 3100 get that one.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

How can I get a ryzen 3100 if my motherboards socket is lga1151? @jaslion

You get a board + CPU. 

 

You had 270$ to spend, no?

 

Depending on wether or not you need memmory withing that budget, you could get a 3600 + board at that price. 

 

edit: nvm it was cad. You can almost get a 3100 + board. 

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1 minute ago, jaslion said:

By as I said getting a new motherboard. A ryzen 3100 + a msi b450 max board (any of them will do) will be plenty. If the 3300x is within lets say 10$ of the 3100 get that one.

 

 

Isn't 3600x better than 3100 and 3300x?(sorry I'm not very keen on amd cpus) Cause I can get a motherboard and a cpu because I didn't bought the ram yet ( I currently have a patriot 8gbs 2133mhz) @jaslion

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Just now, -_ThatGuy_- said:

Isn't 3600x better than 3100 and 3300x?(sorry I'm not very keen on amd cpus) Cause I can get a motherboard and a cpu because I didn't bought the ram yet ( I currently have a patriot 8gbs 2133mhz) @jaslion

Is your current ram 2x4gb? Ryzen does love faster ram and pretty much needs it in dual channel but if you cannot afford new ram you can temporarily use what you have.

 

Don't get the 3600x it's barely any better than a 3600 but a lot more expensive you won't notice the difference anyways. For games the 3600 is a bit better and it also is nice to have if you do anything else whilst gaming as it has the extra cores and threads for it. If pure gaming a 3100 or 3300x will do.

 

Any msi max board from the b450 or b550 series is a good choice to pair any of those cpu's with.

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1 minute ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

My budget without the ram(that I haven't yet bought) is  444cad

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($255.50 @ shopRBC) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  ($75.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $451.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-12 09:11 EDT-0400

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($189.05 @ Vuugo) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory  ($75.99 @ Newegg Canada) 
Total: $385.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-12 09:13 EDT-0400

 

Or best of all, dont buy any of these and hold on for zen 3, or whatever intel May be able to scrape by, or the 10600k may drop in price.

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7 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Is your current ram 2x4gb? Ryzen does love faster ram and pretty much needs it in dual channel but if you cannot afford new ram you can temporarily use what you have.

 

Don't get the 3600x it's barely any better than a 3600 but a lot more expensive you won't notice the difference anyways. For games the 3600 is a bit better and it also is nice to have if you do anything else whilst gaming as it has the extra cores and threads for it. If pure gaming a 3100 or 3300x will do.

 

Any msi max board from the b450 or b550 series is a good choice to pair any of those cpu's with.

@jaslion only one stick of 8gbs of ram. So  you're implyin that ryzen 3100 and 3300x are better than 3600?

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6 minutes ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

So ryzen 3100 or ryzen 3600?

 

Depends wether you can spend the extra or not for the 3600.

 

There is allready 2 builds above as examples. 

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I can afford GIGABYTE AORUS B450 ELITE with ryzen 3600. Tho I would preffer a motherboard (from aorus) with more performance (like type c and no vga) motherboard @GoldenLag if you can find one 

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2 minutes ago, -_ThatGuy_- said:

I can afford GIGABYTE AORUS B450 ELITE with ryzen 3600. Tho I would preffer a motherboard (from aorus) with more performance (like type c and no vga) motherboard @GoldenLag if you can find one 

There are sadly no offerings within you specified budget it seems. 

 

Good offerings anyways. The b450 auros elite isnt a great board. 

 

Can allways add USB C through an add-in card if need be. 

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Just now, -_ThatGuy_- said:

What aorus motherboard do you recommend then?( thats better than the elite) @GoldenLag

 

I dont recommend it, but it would mean stepping up to this:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/7HjNnQ/gigabyte-b550-aorus-elite-atx-am4-motherboard-b550-aorus-elite

 

But that wouldnt allow you to get ram + CPU + board at the specified budget. 

 

The Pro-VDH linked earlier would be sufficient. 

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