Looking for a new rig, Aus, gaming orientated

[Ellipsis69]

Budget (including currency): look, i'm probably willing to pay $1600AUD to start with, just on the system. But a +-$300AUD would also be acceptable.

Country:  Australia, Queensland, Rockhampton (so semi rural area)

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Essentially the only game i play is Dota 2, So i would love to have that on ultra high settings, and also have a couple of tabs open in firefox with youtube videos in the background, and possibly some 'media player classic' windows opened paused at where i left the show i was watching. Doing all 3 at the same time would be great :D.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):

I would like a new monitor, The one i have is fine, its like 5 years old, does the job but, i'm open to a new monitor, Preferably one of those curved widescreen ones i was looking at (saw in the shop harvey norman at $1600 and thought that was a bit much).

My sound bar is pretty horrible one of these cheap $70 ones from officeworks, pluged it in and sounded really tinny (i've gotten used to it, but still pretty bad) so maybe a sound bar option would be appreciated.

 

Another thing i saw was a thunderbolt laptop dock with a graphics card enclosure, I might be planning on working at minesites for possibly 2 weeks on and 1 week off, so this would appeal to me having a portable option (my 5 yr old laptop is still capable of running dota 2 but just barely so unsure if i would like a laptop or desktop for my new machine, but either is fine)

 

I havn't really been keeping up with the computer scene as much as i did say about 10-15 years ago, so looking at all the parts and options available gets me a little confused at what i'm looking at, and how much each stuff i need i.e. 4 cores 8 cores is there really that much difference? how does that help me? Clock speed has increased a little if not stayed the same as a few years ago, but they've just put in more cores, confuses me a little bit. Also ram capacity hasn't increased as much as i would've thought over the years (i guess the speed is different, its just one of those things i havn't kept up with).

 

A big note on the case, I don't want any RGB lights, my current computer has post it notes/blu-tack on the lights cause they really annoy me. So any system please, no RGB lights.

[5x5]

Considering the budget, the Ryzen 5 3600 paired with an RX 5700 XT or 2070 Super should be ideal

[Ellipsis69]

Cool thanks, will keep that in mind.

$1000 just for graphics card and cpu, not gonna blow my budget?

Edited July 12, 2020 by Ellipsis69
Just checked the price

[Oswin]

when are you planning to build this?

 

*remember to quote or mention so that people will get notified when you reply

and welcome to the forums

[5x5]

Just now, Ellipsis69 said:

Cool thanks, will keep that in mind.

No problem. Pair it with a B550 Pro4 or B550 TuF board, 16GB DDR4 3600 CL16 and a 1TB Crucial P1 SSD. Get a Be Quiet Pure Power Gold or Corsair TXM 600W and a case you like and you'll be set. If you want silence, add a 30$ air cooler

[Mateyyy]

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/s9PZYH

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($289.30 @ Newegg Australia) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($279.00 @ Centre Com) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($135.30 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($243.10 @ Newegg Australia) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5600 XT 6 GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($481.26 @ Amazon Australia) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.00 @ Amazon Australia) 
Total: $1655.96

 

This might actually be fairly overkill just for your use case, but either way, you'll have great performance now and a very solid upgrade path for the future.

[marmour]

12 minutes ago, Ellipsis69 said:

 

My suggestion:

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/pxCHyk

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($289.30 @ Newegg Australia) 
Motherboard: ASRock B550M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($209.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  ($108.90 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($97.00 @ Centre Com) 
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($641.69 @ Amazon Australia) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master MWE Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($169.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1643.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-12 19:49 AEST+1000

 

[Oswin]

would recommend something like this

PCPartPicker Part List: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xtbbMc

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($289.30 @ Newegg Australia) 
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($234.30 @ Newegg Australia) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($135.30 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($165.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Triple Dissipation Video Card  ($609.60 @ Amazon Australia) 
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Power Supply: In Win PB 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($122.00 @ I-Tech) 
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 PWM High-Speed 160 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case Fan: be quiet! Pure Wings 2 PWM High-Speed 160 CFM 140 mm Fan  ($22.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Total: $1698.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-12 19:53 AEST+1000

 

though would recommend waiting if you can, as newer hardware is just around the corner.

[Ellipsis69]

marmour and oswin

Great suggestions, i currently have 16gb of ram in my current machine, and it feels like i struggle alot when i have discord and dota open at the same time, will 16gb (2x8gb) be enough for the new one or is 2x16gb better (and still within a resonable price)?

[Ellipsis69]

Sorry another question about eh ram whats the diffference between CL16 and CL18?

[Oswin]

1 minute ago, Ellipsis69 said:

marmour and oswin

Great suggestions, i currently have 16gb of ram in my current machine, and it feels like i struggle alot when i have discord and dota open at the same time, will 16gb (2x8gb) be enough for the new one or is 2x16gb better (and still within a resonable price)?

to mention you will need to use @Ellipsis69 until its highlited orange

 

what are the specs for your current system? i run csgo and discord at the same time with no issues on 12 gb of ram, 16 gb should be enough for gaming needs

[Oswin]

5 minutes ago, Ellipsis69 said:

Sorry another question about eh ram whats the diffference between CL16 and CL18?

if the ram has the same speed, CL16 has better latency

 

here is a video to explain you more about ram timings

 

[Ellipsis69]

@Oswin

Toshiba satellite laptop about 5 years old (i think)

Intel core i7-5500u cpu @2.4GHz 2 cores

16 GB ram (2x8gb)

intel HD graphics 5500 1GB or is it nvidia geforce 930M 2GBs ( i think, 2.1 billion bytes)

Samsung ssd 860 QVO 1TB

[Ellipsis69]

@Oswin

Also, newer hardware around the corner, would that be just in time for Christmas? should i get newer hardware or buy the older stuff cheaper? How many months would you expect it to be?

[Oswin]

Just now, Ellipsis69 said:

@Oswin

Also, newer hardware around the corner, would that be just in time for Christmas? should i get newer hardware or buy the older stuff cheaper? How many months would you expect it to be?

they are rumored to be announced this september if there are no delays

[Oswin]

8 minutes ago, Ellipsis69 said:

@Oswin

Toshiba satellite laptop about 5 years old (i think)

Intel core i7-5500u cpu @2.4GHz 2 cores

16 GB ram (2x8gb)

intel HD graphics 5500 1GB or is it nvidia geforce 930M 2GBs ( i think, 2.1 billion bytes)

Samsung ssd 860 QVO 1TB

are you on high settings? looks like the CPU might be struggling 

[Ellipsis69]

59 minutes ago, Oswin said:

are you on high settings? looks like the CPU might be struggling 

@Oswin

Oh god no, everything in dota 2 is put onto the lowest possible setting, like it still runs, but with discord open, its a real pain.

When i get a new machine, i would maybe like to play some RTS games or farming simulators or something like that. I think https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xtbbMc looks really nice, maybe would change the ram to 2x16gb and add another HD maybe SSD or HD not sure yet, maybe will wait till September.

would it be possible to just assemble it myself? i would just need the correct screwdrivers and thermal paste i'm guessing, and the rest should be pretty self explanatory after a  alot of swearing and looking up linus videos a good half a day i would think. (zero experience assembling computers, but i do know my way around them)

[Oswin]

7 minutes ago, Ellipsis69 said:

@Oswin

Oh god no, everything in dota 2 is put onto the lowest possible setting, like it still runs, but with discord open, its a real pain.

When i get a new machine, i would maybe like to play some RTS games or farming simulators or something like that. I think https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/xtbbMc looks really nice, maybe would change the ram to 2x16gb and add another HD maybe SSD or HD not sure yet, maybe will wait till September.

would it be possible to just assemble it myself? i would just need the correct screwdrivers and thermal paste i'm guessing, and the rest should be pretty self explanatory after a  alot of swearing and looking up linus videos a good half a day i would think. (zero experience assembling computers, but i do know my way around them)

yes it is possible to assemble it by yourself, there's a lot of tutorial videos to help you on yt. the thermal paste is pre applied on the stock cooler so be careful with that.

[ZeroStressLevel]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($299.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($179.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 CL15 Memory  ($118.44 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($86.77 @ Amazon Australia)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card  ($641.69 @ Amazon Australia)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/o ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($169.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Total: $1651.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-12 23:14 AEST+1000

OC the ram to 3600 CL14/16 | 3800 CL14/16. It'll depend on your luck as to how good they'll overclock but CL16 is definitely achievable with both 3600Mhz and 3800Mhz.