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10700 vs 10700k OVERCLOCKING

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Posted · Original PosterOP

I just realized I messed up and ordered the wrong CPU.

 

The 10700 (non k) was selling for $334 on amazon and I didn't realize it was non k and assumed the boost clock was up to 4.8 on all cores.

 

I looked at the 10700k and its $100 more than the non k.

 

I do want to overclock as I'm working on building up to a custom water loop system in this new rig.

 

Can you still OC all cores on the 10700 to 4.8 no problem? I read somewhere that its "locked" and only the intel boost will go up to 4.8 and the power draw is at 65w compared to the 10700k with 125w.

 

In that same post I read someone said to go into the bios and upp the voltage in order to boost it?

 

I don't know tbh.  

 

Should I just send this back and re-order the K version or do I accept fate and return the mobo and cpu and pick up a 3800x + X570 amd

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Return and get amd would be my suggestion. 
 

If you want to stay Intel, I don’t believe it is possible to overclock a non k processor, so you would have to return and get the 10700k.


I am far from an expert in this so please correct me if I’m wrong.

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you can't oc the 10700 at all really. Might be able to raise turbo limits, but thats about it. That would just let it turbo longer.

 

Voltage won't help here really either.

 

Really performance is fine, and you won't get much from ocing, but if you want to, the 10700k is your only real option.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

you can't oc the 10700 at all really. Might be able to raise turbo limits, but thats about it. That would just let it turbo longer.

 

Voltage won't help here really either.

 

Really performance is fine, and you won't get much from ocing, but if you want to, the 10700k is your only real option.

yeah shopping for Intel right now is really shitty.  The only downside with amd is that they have lower cpu GHZ which affects performance in games on average between 10-20 frames vs intel.

 

8 minutes ago, zeusthemoose said:

Return and get amd would be my suggestion. 
 

If you want to stay Intel, I don’t believe it is possible to overclock a non k processor, so you would have to return and get the 10700k.

Yeah I could return the mobo and cpu and get the equivelent 3800x/x570

 

The mobo is $30 more but I save about $140 on the cpu. 

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1 minute ago, Wizwerd said:

yeah shopping for Intel right now is really shitty.  The only downside with amd is that they have lower cpu GHZ which affects performance in games on average between 10-20 frames vs intel.

 

Yeah I could return the mobo and cpu and get the equivelent 3800x/x570

 

The mobo is $30 more but I save about $140 on the cpu. 

a 3800xt should be binned higher than a 3800x so you could overclock higher if you decide to go amd.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, ishapli8 said:

a 3800xt should be binned higher than a 3800x so you could overclock higher if you decide to go amd.

Didn't gamersnexus just make a video on the 3800xt being a waste of silicon cause in some cases the 3800x out performs the 3800xt?

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3 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

Didn't gamersnexus just make a video on the 3800xt being a waste of silicon cause in some cases the 3800x out performs the 3800xt?

He said not to buy it unless you are serious about overclocking becase a 3800xt will overclock higher than a 3800x.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, ishapli8 said:

He said not to buy it unless you are serious about overclocking becase a 3800xt will overclock higher than a 3800x.

ah ok, makes sense.  I really don't know much about amd.  I haven't been amd since my last build (before the one i'm currently using) and the thought of having to learn the quirks of amd is kinda giving me a headache atm.  I think im just gonna pony up the extra cash and go 10700k, I got a feeling I'll regret it if I don't.

 

 

I appreciate all the replies guys thanks.

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11 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

ah ok, makes sense.  I really don't know much about amd.  I haven't been amd since my last build (before the one i'm currently using) and the thought of having to learn the quirks of amd is kinda giving me a headache atm.  I think im just gonna pony up the extra cash and go 10700k, I got a feeling I'll regret it if I don't.

 

 

I appreciate all the replies guys thanks.

i'd just set the bclk to 102.5 and forget about it, but thats the lazy way 3800xt is a bad idea since the all core oc ends up significantly lower than the 3600xt anyway, and the difference between 6/12 and 8/16 isn't worth the 100usd, unless you already got the fastest ram and a 2080S up

 

There are alot of things u can do, keep the 10700, return it for a 10600k, 10700k, go for a 3600 etc, only thing i don't recommend is going for a 3700x/3800xt since the 10600k is significantly faster in games for the same price.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, xg32 said:

i'd just set the bclk to 102.5 and forget about it, but thats the lazy way 3800xt is a bad idea since the all core oc ends up significantly lower than the 3600xt anyway, and the difference between 6/12 and 8/16 isn't worth the 100usd, unless you already got the fastest ram and a 2080S up

 

There are alot of things u can do, keep the 10700, return it for a 10600k, 10700k, go for a 3600/xt etc, only thing i don't recommend is going for a 3700x/3800xt since the 10600k is significantly faster in games for the same price.

Cyberpunk 2077 will use up to 8 cores which is why I didn't consider the 10600k.  I thought about the 10900k for all but 10 seconds until saw the pricetag lol.

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4 minutes ago, Wizwerd said:

Cyberpunk 2077 will use up to 8 cores which is why I didn't consider the 10600k.  I thought about the 10900k for all but 10 seconds until saw the pricetag lol.

hahaha, didn't know about 2077 using up 8 cores, probably don't want the 10900k anyway since it draws 275w stock, any oc puts it at 350w, and if u get a rtx 3000 to go with it, GG. last time i had extremely power hungry parts it heated up my entire room, it's not a matter of whether the heatsinks are enough at that point 🤣, the heats gotta go somewhere.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
4 minutes ago, xg32 said:

hahaha, didn't know about 2077 using up 8 cores, probably don't want the 10900k anyway since it draws 275w stock, any oc puts it at 350w, and if u get a rtx 3000 to go with it, GG. last time i had extremely power hungry parts it heated up my entire room, it's not a matter of whether the heatsinks are enough at that point 🤣, the heats gotta go somewhere.

yeah, I am going to water cool but this gaming desktop I'm building as a DIY project just put me $500 in the hole so I have to wait on the Watercool setup for the time being.  I think the 10700k is the perfect cpu for what im trying to do atm.

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