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B550 Aorus Master or MSI x570 Tomahawk WiFi?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/sefalon/saved/#view=b4RLP6

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Ryzen 7 3800X with a Corsair H60

EVGA 2070 super 8GB XC Hybrid

Corsair RM 850W 80+ Gold Fully modular PSU

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 64GB (4 x 16GB) 3600 CL18 (I'm aware that CL18 isn't that good and that i dont need that much RAM) 

MSI MPG x570 Gaming Edge Wifi

2x intel 660p 1TB M.2 NVME SSD

1x Samsung 860 Evo 1TB SSD

1x SanDisk Ultra 1TB SSD

Case is Lian Li O11Dynamic PCMR edition

 

Lets go ahead and assume I have both boards in my possession, so availability and price are not being taken into consideration. All the parts in the list are what i currently have.

First, here is what I currently do with my build. I mostly play games at 1440p with settings set as high as they can be. Occasionally I play around with Linux virtual machines. As of now, I'm not doing much if any overclocking, but that is starting to change.

 

Currently I'm leaning towards the Aorus Master, however I'm concerned I'm going to see a decline in GPU performance when I install an m.2 in the lower 2 slots it will drop my GPU to a pcie 4.0 x8 so that it will run at gen4 x4 from the CPU. Neither my GPU or my M.2 are gen 4, so I'm not sure if I will see a decline, and I'm only using a 2070 super. Does anyone know if I will see that decline, or if it will be noticeable?

 

Both have 2.5g lan, wifi 6 and bluetooth 5. 

 

What do you think? Any and all feedback is greatly appreciated.

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I'd probably use the X570 Tomahawk simply because of the ridiculously stupid dual BIOS implementation on the B550 Aorus Master, which makes memory overclocking a nightmare.

 

That being said, even with your board, you'll most likely run into thermal limitations on the CPU side because of your H60, rather than on the motherboard side because of its VRMs. I'd hold off on a motherboard upgrade until you actually get a 12/16-core.


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Also, I know you probably won’t listen, but please don’t buy as much ram and get a better gpu


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You'll run 3.0 x8 instead with the 2070S. I dont think it will hurt performance, but down the road you may get a GPU that will (at 4.0 x8)

 

so just get the Tomahawk. It has no drawbacks over the Aorus Master. Bigger VRM is useless if your CPU runs out of cooling in the first place. Currently the most power hungry CPU (3950X) cannot make the Tomahawk run excessively hot either


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Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

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2 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

Also, I know you probably won’t listen, but please don’t buy as much ram and get a better gpu

 

8 minutes ago, TiredFieldTech said:

All the parts in the list are what i currently have.

 


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Displays: Alienware AW2521HF & BenQ BL2420PT

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Posted · Original PosterOP
5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I'd probably use the X570 Tomahawk simply because of the ridiculously stupid dual BIOS implementation on the B550 Aorus Master, which makes memory overclocking a nightmare.

 

That being said, even with your board, you'll most likely run into thermal limitations on the CPU side because of your H60, rather than on the motherboard side because of its VRMs. I'd hold off on a motherboard upgrade until you actually get a 12/16-core.

Instead of the H60, what would you recommend? I'm thinking of upgrading to a 3900X at some point in the next few months

2 minutes ago, Letgomyleghoe said:

Also, I know you probably won’t listen, but please don’t buy as much ram and get a better gpu

Yeah, it was really overkill. I do plan on upgrading my GPU soonish. 

Just now, Jurrunio said:

You'll run 3.0 x8 instead with the 2070S. I dont think it will hurt performance, but down the road you may get a GPU that will

 

so just get the Tomahawk. It has no drawbacks over the Aorus Master. Bigger VRM is useless if your CPU runs out of cooling in the first place. Currently the most power hungry CPU (3950X) cannot make the Tomahawk run excessively hot either

I'll go with the Tomahawk then. 

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16 minutes ago, TiredFieldTech said:

Instead of the H60, what would you recommend? I'm thinking of upgrading to a 3900X at some point in the next few months

Well if you have it already then I probably wouldn't rush out and buy a new cooler, it'll do for a 3900X.

If you're set on upgrading it though, I'd probably look for an NH-U12S chromax.black, NH-U14S/NH-U12A (if you don't mind the look) or an NH-D15 chromax.black.


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Displays: Alienware AW2521HF & BenQ BL2420PT

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