AMD is forcing me to make a very difficult choice…

[Emily Young]

AMD is launching new Ryzen 5, 7, and 9 processors with Zen 2 cores, but with a twist: They new XT chips are faster than their X counterparts, and the SAME PRICE – Is AMD insane?

 

 

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[KGGaming]

Yes, amd is insane to be doing this to intel, their just getting stomped more into the dirt

[KGGaming]

Damn im also kind of sad now since I have a 3600 and since it will cost the same price as a 3600x and it cost like £20 more damn, kind of regret not waiting for the xt, but hey ho life goes on

[Stahlmann]

Not really at the same price though. The original non XT parts are still significantly cheaper.

[Stahlmann]

1 minute ago, KGGaming said:

Damn im also kind of sad now since I have a 3600 and since it will cost the same price as a 3600x and it cost like £20 more damn, kind of regret not waiting for the xt, but hey ho life goes on

Not really lost much there. You're talking about single digit gains.

[KGGaming]

yeah i bought the 3600 for 42% discount off original retail value

[Arika]

Ah yes, more consumer choice by confusing the shit out of everyone. They are doing the exact thing i hate about NVidia....FFS

[Spotty]

0GHz? How does that happen?

 

[Mateyyy]

4 minutes ago, Spotty said:

0GHz? How does that happen?

[...]

Idle power efficiency like never before!

 

24 minutes ago, KGGaming said:

Yes, amd is insane to be doing this to intel, their just getting stomped more into the dirt

They might be with Zen 3 depending on how that goes, but not with these launch really. This looks more like they're just trying to get rid of stock and incidentally the process has matured, so higher clock speeds are more easily obtainable. Nothing too exciting or out of the ordinary.

[Arika]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

0GHz? How does that happen?

also why did it take almost 2 minutes for the clocks to stabilize? i've never used blender in any meaningful way, but when you hit render there's no "spool-up" to get the render warmed up. why does it jump all over the place?

[TVwazhere]

Same retail price =/= same price

From Hardware Canucks

 

At time of posting, the XT value isnt there compared to the old systems. 

[ColdPressCoconutOil]

14 minutes ago, Spotty said:

0GHz? How does that happen?

 

GRAMMA DID YOU TRIP THE POWER SWITCH, AGAIN?

[Spotty]

The 3800X/XT still doesn't make any sense to me. There's a pretty big price gap between the 3700X and 3800XT. If you want 8C/16T save your money and buy the 3700X and invest the savings in a better CPU cooler/motherboard/sandwiches and overclock it.

 

4 minutes ago, Arika S said:

also why did it take almost 2 minutes for the clocks to stabilize? i've never used blender in any meaningful way, but when you hit render there's no "spool-up" to get the render warmed up. why does it jump all over the place?

My guess would be that it's before the test starts and it's supposed to be showing the behaviour of idle clock speeds and then how the CPU boosts up and then maintains a steady clock speed. At around the 11min mark I would imagine that was supposed to show clock speeds after the test had concluded.

[Haro]

29 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

This looks more like they're just trying to get rid of stock and incidentally the process has matured,

they could've just branded them as (x) cpus and call it a day 

they don't have to make it a newish lineup of cpu's 

i honestly thought the XT cpus where just a lower end  navi based gpus 

so it's really confusing.

[Mateyyy]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

they could've just branded them as (x) cpus and call it a day 

they don't have to make it a newish lineup of cpu's 

i honestly thought the XT cpus where just a lower end  navi based gpus 

so it's really confusing.

What are you talking about, don't you like EVEN MORE CONFUSING NAMING SCHEMES?

[Haro]

Just now, Mateyyy said:

 don't you like EVEN MORE CONFUSING NAMING SCHEMES?

you know when i think about it...maybe lol.

[D13H4RD]

39 minutes ago, Spotty said:

The 3800X/XT still doesn't make any sense to me. There's a pretty big price gap between the 3700X and 3800XT. If you want 8C/16T save your money and buy the 3700X and invest the savings in a better CPU cooler/motherboard/sandwiches and overclock it.

That's pretty much how I feel.

 

A 3800XT would probably still be faster than a 3700X on PBO, but I would also reckon that the difference would be so small, it's not worth pondering over.

[SFFDesigns]

42 minutes ago, Spotty said:

The 3800X/XT still doesn't make any sense to me. There's a pretty big price gap between the 3700X and 3800XT. If you want 8C/16T save your money and buy the 3700X and invest the savings in a better CPU cooler/motherboard/sandwiches and overclock it.

 

Yes exactly! I just snagged a 3700X for $273 and the difference in price (between the 3700X and 3800X/XT) doesn't make any sense. I will instead spend the $100+ difference from 3700X to 3800XT on an AIO, which to me feels a lot more useful!

[SGCleveland]

Alright the 3900X chip benchmarks look totally out of whack. Maybe you guys just got an unfortunately crappy 3900X, as it was doing way worse than even the 3800X. Hardware Unboxed released their video and basically saw 2% improvements from each X => XT version, so it really does seem like a silicon lottery thing. With the retail markdowns in most 3000X series chips, the cost of going up to the 3000XT chips just doesn't seem worth it for the small benefit. Especially if you exclude those crappy 3900X benchmark results. 

[samcool55]

I have no idea who said it but iirc the goal of the XT-series is to cause a dent in the intel 10th gen and make them look a little bit worse so AMD can be sure to wipe the floor with them when third-gen launches. Tbh, I have no clue wtf that means but maybe this is part of a long-ish term strategy from AMD?

[ahuckphin]

I like these new publish video time 

[Spotty]

17 minutes ago, bindydad123 said:

I like these new publish video time 

It's likely just when embargo lifted for videos on the new CPUs.

[D13H4RD]

58 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

Yes exactly! I just snagged a 3700X for $273 and the difference in price (between the 3700X and 3800X/XT) doesn't make any sense. I will instead spend the $100+ difference from 3700X to 3800XT on an AIO, which to me feels a lot more useful!

I put the money saved in a beefier air cooler and some other upgrades.

[Hold-Ma-Beer]

Everyone be like: "3600x or 3600xt??"

Meanwhile me struggling to type this comment on a Celeron 2430M running win10

[Zberg]

1 hour ago, samcool55 said:

I have no idea who said it but iirc the goal of the XT-series is to cause a dent in the intel 10th gen 

maybe so, but I feel like they just highlighted the fact that the best option/value all along was the discounted base chip (3600 or 3900x).  The "higher binned" chips seem not improved enough to make one buy that instead of the pretty similar performance, low cost, air cooler included chip.  If said person would pay a premium for a chip binned higher to get 1-2% performance upgrade, with no cooler, they probably already bought an intel chip 

 

I am smiling happy with the 3900x I got for a hair over 400 ; thats where I would put my money (hard to beat that deal!)