Won't post out of stock memory settings

[PedroBE]

There I was playing some valorant when my PC just froze, when I restarted it, it booted but got me a BSOD "system exception" when I was about to go back to game.

Since then I'm not able to boot if the ram isn't at auto and 2400mhz (tried lower too)

I can boot with higher volts too, I presume I can oc the CPU as well (Ryzen master worked)

I used to run it with a 3400 oc and tighter timings but my ram is a sport ballistics 3000mhz xmp

My PC:

Gigabyte b450m gaming

R7 2700

2x 8gb ballistics single rank

Cx 650 plus bronze

Rtx 2070 mini galax

PS: running bios f50 but reverted to f32 to test and made no difference.

[Haro]

Alright a couple of things 

Clear the cmos 

Set the soc to 1.1

Dram to 1.35 

And then try 2933 with docp / xmp on 

If it boots, use memtest86 and /or OCCT to make sure that it's stable .

If it is, try 3000 and then use memtest86 and / or OCCT 

3200 is beyond the advertised frequency of the kit , and how good that overclock is, will depend on the quality of the IC's and the imc 

And for zen + the imc is not necessarily good. And anything over 2933 is not guaranteed. If 3000 and 2933 works. Try 3200 ( even tho the difference in performance will be negligible).

[PedroBE]

8 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Alright a couple of things 

Clear the cmos 

Set the soc to 1.1

Dram to 1.35 

And then try 2933 with docp / xmp on 

If it boots, use memtest86 and /or OCCT to make sure that it's stable .

If it is, try 3000 and then use memtest86 and / or OCCT 

3200 is beyond the advertised frequency of the kit , and how good that overclock is, will depend on the quality of the IC's and the imc 

And for zen + the imc is not necessarily good. And anything over 2933 is not guaranteed. If 3000 and 2933 works. Try 3200 ( even tho the difference in performance will be negligible).

Didn't work, it cicled 3 times turning on/off and then gone back to stock settings...

[Haro]

1 minute ago, PedroBE said:

Didn't work, it cicled 3 times turning on/off and then gone back to stock settings...

Have you manually set the soc to 1.1 and dram to 1.35 and tried 2933 ?

[PedroBE]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Have you manually set the soc to 1.1 and dram to 1.35 and tried 2933 ?

Yes, Sir.

[Haro]

1 minute ago, PedroBE said:

Yes, Sir.

Try a lower  frequency like 2666. 

Also just checking , when you over clocked the ram , what voltage did you set it to?

[PedroBE]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Try a lower  frequency like 2666. 

Also just checking , when you over clocked the ram , what voltage did you set it to?

I followed dram timing calculator's up to 1.48 just for testing but was using 1.46 for 3400

[Haro]

Just now, PedroBE said:

I followed dram timing calculator's up to 1.48 just for testing but was using 1.46 for 3400

1.46?! For what I would assume a micron or a hynix kit?

[PedroBE]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

1.46?! For what I would assume a micron or a hynix kit?

Micron E die

[Haro]

Just now, PedroBE said:

Micron E die

Try setting it to 2666.

[PedroBE]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Try setting it to 2666.

Same thing, 3 cicles on/off... Any idea what it can be?

[PedroBE]

4 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

1.46?! For what I would assume a micron or a hynix kit?

I'm sorry, I was using up to 1.42 for higher clocks but 1.38 for 3400

[Haro]

Just now, PedroBE said:

Any idea what it can be?

I mean , it's possible that it's due to wear down 

1.46 us a pretty high voltage for micron E-die and  I wouldn't go over 1.4 with this kit.

1 minute ago, PedroBE said:

but 1.38 for 3400

3400? You just said it was set at 3200?

[PedroBE]

I've ran for a good time in 3400mhz, like a year or so

[PedroBE]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

I mean , it's possible that it's due to wear down 

1.46 us a pretty high voltage for micron E-die and  I wouldn't go over 1.4 with this kit.

3400? You just said it was set at 3200?

Yep, I was wrong

[PedroBE]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

I mean , it's possible that it's due to wear down 

1.46 us a pretty high voltage for micron E-die and  I wouldn't go over 1.4 with this kit.

3400? You just said it was set at 3200?

Well, in that case I'll be testing another kit when I have the chance...

Thanks for the attention and help!

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, PedroBE said:

Thanks for the attention and help!

No problem.

[PedroBE]

1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

I mean , it's possible that it's due to wear down 

I was thinking by myself, does this explain I'm not being able to boot even in lower frequencies than 2400?

[Haro]

1 minute ago, PedroBE said:

does this explain I'm not being able to boot even in lower frequencies than 2400?

Could be possible.

[PedroBE]

@TofuHaroto
After some search I was about to resocket my cpu (its not a intel, but anyways) as I was doing some work in blender and was getting trouble making actions and listening to a video at the same time I saw that there was just 8gb recognized, so I go take the 2 mem out of the board and test one by one (done before).

For my surprise, a stick alone booted with the xmp profile without any problems, so did the 2 sticks. I'm happy it's working again but don't know what to think about it now haha.
Did a cinebench real quick and the performance is on par too...

[Haro]

1 minute ago, PedroBE said:

I'm happy it's working again but don't know what to think about it now haha

Well that's weird 

Either way , good for you, just a note, don't go beyond 1.4 with non b die kits

[PedroBE]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Well that's weird 

Either way , good for you, just a note, don't go beyond 1.4 with non b die kits

Yeah, I was getting some weird stuff when trying 3666 out either way... I'll stick to 3000 as it works well and don't get a perceptible performance loss...
Going off topic, my mobo supports up to 3600mhz and theres some nice price in t-force dark z 2x16gb kits, about $225 (for comparisson, a 2070 super is up to 770-800 dollars here in Brazil) Will my cpu make a good use of it? There's only a $20 difference from the 3000 and 3600 kits...

[Haro]

5 minutes ago, PedroBE said:

Will my cpu make a good use of it?

It might be not possible because you have no control over the FCLK with zen + and the imc is a little meh.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it will he difficult.

[PedroBE]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

It might be not possible because you have no control over the FCLK with zen + and the imc is a little meh.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it will he difficult.

What about thinking in the future, like a zen3? 

[Haro]

Just now, PedroBE said:

What about thinking in the future, like a zen3? 

That'll be somewhat reasonable. 

If your already planning an upgrade for ram then I guess go for it, if your fine with the current kit, keep it 

Micron e die isn't the worst and should be fine for now.